AmigaONE or Pegasos, which one will it be sir?

[Glaucus]

Apart from buying second hand hardware and upgrades since 1995, what else has there been in terms of computer hardware?

AMD & ASUS.  Who says my next computer has to be an Amiga?  It's one thing to build a computer, it's another to build a market.  I'm not interested in who makes a better PPC box, I want a useable market that will make the PPC box worth it's keep.  That's the bottom line, and I couldn't care less what a few geeks think about the hardware.

  - Mike

[Glaucus]

I recently caught a demo of Pegasos ( a Beta unit) running MorphOS. The machine had a g3 running @600 MHz - the CPU was cool to the touch with no fan being used!

heh, maybe that's because it had no software to keep it busy!  :-P heh, just kidding, had to throw that in.

  - Mike

I dunno... As for me, I'll have to wait 'till I'm done with some much needed home improvements.  With the three new rooms to be added on, the kitchen to be totally redone, and the new furnace to be installed, it'll take a few years to get it all paid off.  Hopefully, the AmigaONE should be out by then.  ;-)

'till then, Rant on!  :ranting:

[Argo]

Would you like fries with that?

[Rodney]

KapitanKlystron wrote:
@Strobe
Boy you are a one note horn. 20+ plus posts of sheer vitriol about the AOne. What's the matter you A**hole? Let me guess, you couldn't find www.Pegasos.org.  The only thing you have done is fire on Amiga inc. Are you sure you don't work for MS?

Calm down, respect other peoples opinions. No im not a MOS Supporter, but he does have some good points.

it's not wich one it will be...it's wich one will it be that fails first.....

[olegil]

Considering I got one of the first ppcboot chips while in Gothenburg and had to have it replaced almost immediately, it would NOT have been very user friendly to ship the board with firmware. It was either just a board, or both board and firmware not arriving at all.

And the fact that the MAI northbridge doesn't handle all memory modules (in fact, the only thing that's more or less sure to work is registered RAM) doesn't make the firmware (stop calling it a BIOS already, that's such a negatively loaded word  ;-) ) buggy. I really don't think PPCBoot can do anything about it.  Which is why I've been trying to keep people from buying cheap memory last year for use with the board next year. Cheap memory right out the window isn't cheap.

The CDrom issue sounds like a bug, though. But it's not one I've ever heard of. I suspect it's been fixed eons ago.

Also, how do you know the CDROM was detected as a harddisk? Because it came up in the IDE unit list? It's supposed to, you know...

If only people would stop speculating everything to death (and start listening to facts) I think this would be a much better place. But oh no.

I don't give a rats ass about how much more PR Thendic are doing. I do notice, however, that they're still sponsoring the word "amigaone" at google. A computer that doesn't sell itself but has to be marketed as "mom's friendly computer company's friendly alternative to the evil AmigaOne" can't be very sellable. I remember back in May there was gonna be a TV show in Germany featuring the "AmigaOne from bPlan". Kronos was all raged up about how the show was stopped, but come on. I wouldn't have wanted to be the journalist who had to go out in public and say "oops, wrong product,  it's really the competitor we are gonna show today".

I just don't trust Thendic, for some odd reason...

[Hammer]

The only advantage AmigaINC have is the Amiga name. The fields flat, and I see Pegasos as the winner. Simply because I can surf to find out whats going on.

IF history can be use as a guidance, Amiga Inc has the history at it’s side i.e. OS/2 Warp made to the general market before Windows 95 and OS/2 still lost the war.

Many other reasons why IBM’s OS/2 Warp lost the Win95/OS2 war is the fact that IBM doesn’t have “Microsoft Windows” branding and name. Generally, most users will run MS Apps on MS OS.  

Most users see “Microsoft Windows 95” as the real successor of “Microsoft Windows 3.11”, due to the name and branding factors.

Personally, my HW selections will be dictated largely by price.

[Hammer]

lets all start a new thread "Playstation 3 Vs Xbox"

Well, guessing X-BOX 2’s specs is not that hard i.e. just guess yet another X86 HW e.g. AMD Athlon XP/Duron @~1.6 Ghz with a DirectX 9 class GPU....

[wonea]

Quote:
The only advantage AmigaINC have is the Amiga name. The fields flat, and I see Pegasos as the winner. Simply because I can surf to find out whats going on.

Quote:
IF history can be use as a guidance, Amiga Inc has the history at it’s side i.e. OS/2 Warp made to the general market before Windows 95 and OS/2 still lost the war.

Many other reasons why IBM’s OS/2 Warp lost the Win95/OS2 war is the fact that IBM doesn’t have “Microsoft Windows” branding and name. Generally, most users will run MS Apps on MS OS.

Most users see “Microsoft Windows 95” as the real successor of “Microsoft Windows 3.11”, due to the name and branding factors.

Personally, my HW selections will be dictated largely by price.

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This statement is only half true.  Windows won over OS2 simply by better marketing, and office.  When OS2 came along it had nowhere near the backing windows had.  By that time people where already becoming entrenched into Office.

Now apart from the name, and a cheap motherboard (Herahh!), what does Amiga Inc have?  Officialness and that counts for everything (contradiction there I know, I'm agreeing with you).  How long have we waited?  About 8 long years.  For all we know MorphOS is just another Phase 5, leading us down a dead end.  

[zacman]

>I don't give a rats ass about how much more PR
>Thendic are doing.

Of course you don't care. But the Amiga magazines,
the websites,  several show organizers and of course Amiga dealers do.

>I do notice, however, that they're still sponsoring
>the word "amigaone" at google

Oh my god! And tell you what: They even had the
Walker shown yesterday at this BeOS fair...

>I remember back in May there was gonna be a TV >show in Germany featuring the "AmigaOne from
>bPlan".

This is FUD because I assume you know the email
that has stopped the show.

[strobe]

The reason I mentioned that the pre-alpha AmigaOS 3.x/4 hybrid was demonstrated was not to criticize the effort or what was demonstrated but to point out what stage in development they were at. My only point here is if they had something better to show us they would have and that given all the facts concerning OS development there is little chance of seeing AOS4 stable on new hardware in a very long time.

I'm not reveling in this fact, I'm merely pointing it out.

I'm also pointing out how impressive bPlan's progress has been. They have a completely new OS running on new hardware which you can actually get your hands on if you so choose.

I don't like either the Pegasus or the AmigaOne on a purely hardware standpoint. I would much rather use a Titanium Powerbook.

Also allow me to say that I don't trust either of these companies, however I do trust my own eyes. What do you see with your eyes? I see a TODO list from Amiga Inc. and a working OS from bPlan. Unless I'm short on TP my decision is obvious.

[strobe]

FYI the Teron CX and PX now run MorphOS.

http://www.morphos-news.de/

Still waiting for the Titanium Powerbook |-)

[wonea]

Is MorphOS open source?

People say morphOS is not creditable, have you seen the developer credits?

Very impressive...  Surely Mac support is in our grasp.  Have you seen the supported hardware list on the thendic site?  Most of my mac is supported there!

[strobe]

MorphOS is not open source. It is closed source and commercial. I would rather have a semi-open source commercial OS (like Apple's current strategy) but oh well.

In order to run MorphOS on a Mac, they (bPlan) would have to port it themselves. I believe they would like to do this but they obviously have to concentrate on making a stable consumer release first.

They also plan to run MorphOS on some kind of PDA-like device called the eclipsis. Personally I would rather run it on a Titanium Powerbook (in case bPlan is reading this).

[iCreate]

The Pegasos by far has the best features of the two.  And it's expandable now, not a disposable like the SE.
I hope OS 4 will be made available for the Pegasos.