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Re: Are we going to get 20 questions ever again with Amiga.com?
« Reply #74 from previous page: April 22, 2007, 11:45:15 AM »
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Nothing, since they own nothing involved in the AROS project


You know better than that. How many times have decisions been made based on who has the better lawyers opposed to who's wrong or right?


A inc couldn't afford the lawyer needed to sue over one hundred people in at least 10 different countries, which is what they would have to do to shut down the project. Also they woud look pretty stupid bringing a law suit against an Open Source project which uses nothing they own... look what happened to SCO... and they "might" have had a case...

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Besides AROS uses A.Inc's trade mark in their name, or did you forget? "Amiga Research Operating System". Hopefully Amiga Inc will continue with their benevolent attitude.

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How vital is the word "Amiga" to the functioning of AROS?

Not very, I could go through the whole AROS source and change the word Amiga to AROS (AROS Research Operating System) and AROS would work fine.

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Re: Are we going to get 20 questions ever again with Amiga.com?
« Reply #75 on: April 22, 2007, 12:26:01 PM »
I think Bill knows all the questions, but I wish I tell him:

Why don't you experiment Mobile stuff on other platforms away from the dying Amiga?

There are companies/fans who wants it to survive and rise again... but you are the only obstacle here.

One additional advice:
Keep away from outsourcing from India, it will destroy all your reputation...

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Re: Are we going to get 20 questions ever again with Amiga.com?
« Reply #76 on: April 22, 2007, 04:13:57 PM »
Asking AI any questions - be it 2, 20 or 200 - is an utter waste of time. The Amiga community as we know it is a bunch of people interested in desktop solutions while in AInc this is apparently just "backwater" overshadowed by all that mobile stuff.

Sounds like a truism? Well, sometimes truisms make good answers...
 

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Re: Are we going to get 20 questions ever again with Amiga.com?
« Reply #77 on: April 22, 2007, 04:26:27 PM »
What would it take to allow OS4.0 to run on SAM, Efika or any other PowerPC platform? Please the current situation is beyond being retarded.

We had hardware and no OS, now some people finally have the OS but you won't licence it for any hardware! From our perspective it seems childish.

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Re: Are we going to get 20 questions ever again with Amiga.com?
« Reply #78 on: April 22, 2007, 08:48:44 PM »
I posted some questions when last 20 questions were made to Bill McE. Unfortunately, because none had a real, achieved answer, they are still valid:

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Posted 2006/8/31

Re: Amiga Inc, in 25 questions or less

@Wayne

First of all, thanks for your initiative.

My questions to Mr. McEwen:

1. Does Amiga Inc. any plans for AmigaOS for desktop platform or will you focus only in AmigaAnywhere for portable devices? Do you still have any real interest in AmigaOS?

2. In your web page you say "Amiga, Inc. does not distribute or support AmigaOS 4.0.". Unfortunatelly, this seems to include AmigaOS 4.0 promotion... We have only seen news regarding AmigaAnywhere, but none regarding AmigaOS 4.0. Why Amiga Inc. has remained so silent regarding AmigaOS 4.0 promotion?

3. Will there be a future convergence between current AmigaOS and AA as one product or will they remain as separated products?

4. Do you plan to support in any way current AmigaOS user base and developers?

5. It was said any further AmigaOS version was going to be developed in-house by Amiga Inc. Is this still true? If yes, developing the OS in-house means a delay: new developers have to take and understand a work made by others -Hyperion-, so why not simply allow Hyperion to continue their good work? They are doing quite well, they have even done more than initially expected.

6. If Amiga Inc. takes finally back AmigaOS development, you will have to provide support for it and the means for its promotion and distribution. Any plans on this?

7. Hyperion has stated that they will not release a final OS4 version until there's real hardware to run it on, and that depends right now on licensed HW, so how many companies/individuals have asked for an Amiga license for its HW? How many of them finally got it? How many are currently active? If possible, coud you please give its names?

8. Will Amiga Inc. keep the made-by-others, licensed HW scheme or will you make any new HW?


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Re: Are we going to get 20 questions ever again with Amiga.com?
« Reply #79 on: April 22, 2007, 08:55:52 PM »
@Magic-Merl

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I work in senior managerial circles and I know a number of men and women, nice or not, being removed from their positions because they couldn't hack it.

If he can't do the job, then he needs to be removed.

....and he hasn't been "capable" of his role since he owned the company.


the problem is he own the company, if he are removed there is no amiga inc. so how will that help?
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Re: Are we going to get 20 questions ever again with Amiga.com?
« Reply #80 on: April 22, 2007, 10:06:53 PM »
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the problem is he own the company, if he are removed there is no amiga inc. so how will that help?


McEwen is "only" the CEO, but there are investors, venture capitalists and other financial backers who own the majority of shares in Amiga Inc. Pentti Kouri/Invisible hand, Netventures, Prokom, etc.
So there will still be an Amiga Inc. if they would kick him.

If they would have the objective to actually make some money with Amiga Inc, they would have already fired him years ago.
 

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Re: Are we going to get 20 questions ever again with Amiga.com?
« Reply #81 on: April 22, 2007, 11:30:30 PM »
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If they would have the objective to actually make some money with Amiga Inc, they would have already fired him years ago.


On the Netventures site it sounds as if they actually wanted Amiga to develop, albeit with a different order of steps / with a different set of priorities from the current user base..

From their point of view, McEwen might be doing a relatively good job. Or, didn't they ask him to become the CEO again after a while? They may not have found a suitable replacement. Nobody knows.

Of course the big question is what their plans wrt. the OS4 branch are. Or indeed if they have any. Come on, let's have a little Executive Update. Afterwards we can still all unite behind AROS.
 

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Re: Are we going to get 20 questions ever again with Amiga.com?
« Reply #82 on: April 23, 2007, 12:16:41 AM »
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A inc couldn't afford the lawyer needed to sue over one hundred people


Well 6 months ago they couldn't afford to fund a hockey team either, so some thing has changed. Even Hummpa points out that lawyers may play a part in any plan to inforce IP claims in cases of infringments.

Sure AROS can chage the name (I liked YAROS), but that may or may not be enough to avoid trouble with A.Inc if they get a bug in the bonnet about the project.

Plaz
 

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Re: Are we going to get 20 questions ever again with Amiga.com?
« Reply #83 on: April 23, 2007, 12:26:42 AM »
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On the Netventures site it sounds as if they actually wanted Amiga to develop, albeit with a different order of steps / with a different set of priorities from the current user base..


That's what venture capitalists do. Remember that also VCs have investors. VCs naturally want to make their portfolio look as valuable as possible to get a good "exit" out of them (e.g. selling the shares for a higher price after they have pumped a lot of hot air into the corporate shell).
Of course they would never state something like "Amiga is only used to park the IP and some patents."  :lol:
 

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Re: Are we going to get 20 questions ever again with Amiga.com?
« Reply #84 on: April 23, 2007, 03:19:19 AM »
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The only question I had that was rude was about his health..yea that was the only personal attack.  As for the rest of my questions that were moderated (lol..a moderator getting moderated), dont be scared.. ask the real questions..not the politically correct questions.


I don't know who moderated you or why, but don't take it personally IMHO. I've been moderated and IIRC I've even moderated Wayne before  :lol:
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Re: Are we going to get 20 questions ever again with Amiga.com?
« Reply #85 on: April 23, 2007, 03:25:43 AM »
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I can't belive how "childish" a-inc is. Insisitng they will release OS5 with out any schedule! Not being capable of releasing OS4.  Then making a deal with the city of kent.... it's a joke, it's all smoke and mirrors.


I tend to agree with this in spirit. I have a very low opinion of amiga Inc right now, sorry guys. I would absolutely LOVE for my opinion to be changed, for some hope for the platform be rekindled. I just don't see it happening ever. I have no idea where they are getting funding or why, but there is no tangible evidence any of it will improve the situation most if us here see.

Bill, you say OS5 has been under development for years. Show us something to concrete. The time for talk and fluff is long over.
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Re: Are we going to get 20 questions ever again with Amiga.com?
« Reply #86 on: April 23, 2007, 04:06:53 AM »
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I'm not too offended, I would just wish that whoever moderated me, moderates what needs to be and not the other questions.  But thats ok, I said what I wanted to say in my latter post.  I may have blue runnin through my veins but I still get pissed off when the red side gets drug through the dirt over and over and over.
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Re: Are we going to get 20 questions ever again with Amiga.com?
« Reply #87 on: April 23, 2007, 05:07:24 AM »
Why doesn't the community just buy a majority of shares and then fire all current staff members?

I can't imagine it would cost much, the company must be worth bugger all.
 

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Re: Are we going to get 20 questions ever again with Amiga.com?
« Reply #88 on: April 23, 2007, 05:15:43 AM »
Here's a [rhetorical] question:

Is the future of Amiga Inc. more an application-based platform, or as a tool-based platform?

Microsoft's strategy has been to focus on system tools, like .NET and DirectX.  Very few applications actually come with their systems, and Windows has a very document-centric philosophy.  You can use pretty much any application to edit documents and media, but you have to rely heavily on 3rd parties.

Apple's strategy is to write their own software, and is a highly application-centric philosophy.  Everything is very tightly integrated, but it's difficult to move things back and forth between vendors.

Amiga's existing strategy is application-centric, but it is also a hosted platform and not an OS.  That seems to be a contradiction, almost the opposite of Java.

I bought the Party Pack, and was aghast at how few tools came with it.  It's going to be very difficult to get developers to jump on board that way.  Does Amiga have the resources to write their own software or resell others' products?
 

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Re: Are we going to get 20 questions ever again with Amiga.com?
« Reply #89 on: April 23, 2007, 05:19:40 AM »
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(lol..a moderator getting moderated)


That is a sign of health on amiga.org  ;-)

A well balanced staff do moderate eachother, everyone can have a bad day now and then  :-)