Any REAL news from the OS4-tour ?

[FarQuad]

It should be humorously noted that the MorphOS team WROTE THEIR OWN for dedicated PPC hardware in less than the time it's taking Hyperion to PORT theirs to antiquated Amiga hardware.

I should point out that I have a great deal of respect for the Friedens, but the choice (probably not their own) to write for the old PPC cards first was simply stupid.

// FarQ

[alx]

It should be humorously noted that the MorphOS team WROTE THEIR OWN for dedicated PPC hardware in less than the time it's taking Hyperion to PORT theirs to antiquated Amiga hardware.

Eh?  You do realise that the whole MorphOS project was started in the  90's?  The OS4 project didn't begin untill a couple of years ago - MorphOS by then was already in public beta!

but the choice (probably not their own) to write for the old PPC cards first was simply stupid.

It's what happened with MorphOS.

[mikeymike]

@ FarQuad

AmigaOS for the AmigaOne is no where to be found. That is what I consider the real news.

Do you have a point to make, or do you just like trolling?

[porneL]

 :-(



No answer is quite clear answer. If they had anything they'd boast about it.



 :-x

[mikeymike]

@ porneL

I did reply telling you to stop trolling or I'd start moderating, but reading what you wrote again, it could be that you were actually trying to say something, but used slightly iffy wording.

OS4 is on tour.  That means it's in a reasonable state to start showing the public, even though it's not quite ready for release yet.  I think the Hyperion team would call that quite a milestone to pass, as well as most people who aren't so blindly biased to their own points of view.  I think the Hyperion team would find your comments quite insulting.

If your comment wasn't intended to be a troll-job, please think more about the wording of your comments, as they're open to misinterpretation.

As for "real news", the public have seen OS4 in action, which is a hell of a lot more than could be previously said.  It would be nice if there were more accounts of what went on, and peoples' opinions after seeing the product in action, but that is for them to do.  I'm sure as OS4 goes further along the tour that we'll get more useful feedback.  

Personally I would prefer that OS4 had been released by now, but I guess I can't have everything :-)

[Rogue]

And yes I know someone will come around and tell me that I ain't worth an answer (hi Hans-Jörg), but that doesn't change the fact that my questions are valid

They are, but unless you learn to ask them in a decent way, I won't bother. Just look at your posting. You simply cannot ask something in a polite or non-flamable fashion. It's always full of "flame on", or "useless screenshots".

And you wonder why I refuse to answer?

[Rogue]

Yes, have been criticly about OS4 in the past year, and yes I have never shyed away from telling what I think

There is a difference between stating your opinion, and flaming. Most of your posts contain at least something like "flame on" or an arrogant "lol", giving the general impression of "I could do better".

And about the orginal questions:
I don't see how they could be seen as asked in an unfriendly way
or should I have reworded them to AO-style

Again an insult. I am wondering some times if you do that on purpose or if you just don't notice how you behave.

[HyperionMP]

Let me at that stage equally humourously point out that large sections of the MorphOS code were lifted from the AROS codebase.

Things like DOS and Intuition for instance which are among the largest OS modules in OS 3.x.

[Rogue]

And *ALL OF THEM HAVE PUBLIC BETAS RELEASED MONTHS IF NOT YEARS AHEAD OF TIME.*

Seems your mind is already made up. Why bother, then?

[Karlos]

Well I thought the screenshots looked pretty cool 8-)

Maybe I'm just more easily pleased than some...

[Hooligan_DCS]

So do we get answers or do we not?

I see lots of Hyperion people commenting but mainly useless BS targeted to person who has been corrected about a dozen times already.

Building up one of those "most useless threads" at speeds unknown to manbeing :-)

[Rogue]

How much is still 68k, and how much is PPC ?

Kernel and a few key libraries are PowerPC native. Some stuff is still 68k, but will be replaced in the near future. Preparations for the move to PPC have been made since the work started out, so it will be rather painless. Those modules we ported so far didn't pose any serious problems.

What did run ? 68k SW ? WOS ? OS4-native ?

To tell you the truth, I don't know what they've been showing. Jürgen did make the presentation, and I was not there.

Is P96 allready intregrated in in graphics/layers, or still patching the orginal libs ?

I don't understand the point. You will probably tell me that ramlib isn't properly integrated into the system because it patches Exec?

No, P96 patches the original libs. There's nothing wrong with that. What is interesting to the user is exclusively when the graphics system is available, that is, if I can view the early startup menu on a graphics card screen or not. The answer is yes.

And how will that affect the AGA-compabilty ?

Not at all. AGA software works just fine.

What HW was used ? SCSI (on the CS-PPC) ?

Again, I don't know how the show machines where equipped. We do have a native driver for CS SCSI, though, if that is the question.

Where new drivers used (emu or native ?), or
ist it still the Phase5-device running in emu ?

See above.  The flashrom on the CSPPC isn't executed, and no third-party drivers from Phase5 are used.

What GFX-card ? Zorro,PCI or CV-PPC ? And what others are supported right now ?

All of them. CSPPC's got a new driver written from scratch. With SNAP, we'll also be able to support the latest GeForce (2D of course), all Radeons, and a whole bunch of other cards :-)

[Rogue]

I see lots of Hyperion people commenting but mainly useless BS targeted to person who has been corrected about a dozen times already.

Useless BS?

Now, that was clearly a flame, so by your own high standards, go stand in the corner.

And people wonder why I grow tried of dealing with kiddies...

But thanks. I just tried to answer, but apparently, this is all useless. Go try to get your answers from someone who cares.

[EntilZha]

>I see lots of Hyperion people commenting but mainly useless
> BS targeted to person who has been corrected about a dozen
> times already.

I see a lot of BS targeted at me, every day, sometimes from you as well. So you think I should swallow every #### targeted at me and reply nicely ? Grow up.


> Building up one of those "most useless threads" at
> speeds unknown to manbeing

Well, you should know, you're a master at that.

Sorry, do not treat me like an idiot, then I won't treat you like one. That's a basic fundamential.

[Akiko]

I'd like to know if Hyperion could shed some light on the sharkPCC expansion
Has Hyperion ever received a developer board from Elbox? Will it run OS4 as Elbox persistently claim? I trust Hyperion don't also have a gentlemen's agreement with Elbox to keep their trap shut when it comes to discussing their hardware as seems to be the case with Ainc.

[Hooligan_DCS]

Wow. People really do not have sense of humour.

At least people got some answers. Actually I had a couple more questions but guess it's not much sense to ask.

Hooligan

-- The master of building useless threads in speed unknown to mankind