AmigaOne Alive?

[adz]

Kathyone wrote:
I am currently negotiating with Hyperion to provide a new amiga motherboard or using an existing or brand new design.
I want Hyperion to eliminate the need for a ROM, or I'll have to add a new one to the board design. This will slow things down.  However, flash ROM won't be much of a problem.
I want to use a dual core set-up.

Hyperion was foolish to make it one board specific.
They now say on their website that they will work with you to port the OS to a new chip if necessary. I was thinking of AMD. The chips are well supported and have a future.

Kathy Elliott
Mystical Rose Technologies
Former Amiga Developer and OS Tester

Why waste your time and resources? You may as well throw your money into the fireplace, the Amiga is dead, end of story.

[adz]

sys64738 wrote:
Amiga One is dead IMHO.
Better go for Pegasos.

Yeah, that makes sense :roll:

Next time try and come up with a viable solution.

[drewz21]

@adz
Wow, your enthusiasm for the Amiga is overwhelming.  

[adz]

drewz21 wrote:
@adz
Wow, your enthusiasm for the Amiga is overwhelming.  

Sorry if my realistic appraisal of the situation offended you, but someone has to have the balls to say it. If we were talking about a classic rebuild, eg. Minimig, then I'm all for it, but these "new" Amiga's share nothing with the classics I enjoyed during the early-mid 90's.

[Tomas]

Kernel wrote:
Is there any hope of ever obtaining a new AmigaOne?  What are the best prospects for a new mothetboard?  And how does one get OS4 if they did get a motherboard?

I think your only chance is by buying second hand. The OS4 pre release was bundled with all motherboards, and you also get to download free updates upto and including OS4 final.

[Tomas]

Hyperion was foolish to make it one board specific.

I dont think that decision was made by Hyperion. I believe it is AmigaINC that has stopped OS4 from running on various hardware by demanding people to pay huge amounts for a license. I believe several board manufactor has asked for a license, but they either got zero response from Amiga inc or they werent willing to go with the terms.

[pixie]

@adz:
Maybe you never used much the OS... :roll:

[Kernel]

dammy wrote:

They now say on their website that they will work with you to port the OS to a new chip if necessary. I was thinking of AMD. The chips are well supported and have a future.

Never mind OS4, AROS is already working on your first step (x86-64 native) and could do it far cheaper then Hyperion.  The x86-64 native port bounty sure could use some donations.  Michal is reworking the AROS kernel to be modular for a bunch of future improvements to bring AROS to modern OS capabilities.  :-)

Dammy
TeamAROS

Ok, so I downloaded the ISO from the 02/07 build and it looks pretty cool, but what exactly can I do with it?  Is it installable to HD?  Can I install regular Am iga programs and run with it, or arfe there compatability issues, etc?  I admit I haven't read mcuh on the website.

[dammy]

Yes, you can install it on a drive to use it natively.  Going with SFS, it's a bit tricky to do the install, but there are instructions on how to do it (or jump over to #aros on irc.freenode.org for semi real time help if a Dev is at the keyboard).  There is UAE for Amiga apps.  There is also AROS-Max distro which has both native, hosted, and  emulated ISOs.  

Current active projects:

ATI driver (nearing test release)
USB
x86-64 port (major rewrite of kernel to allow modular support)

Though we do try to post to AO, alot of more info is posted over on AROS-exec.org.

Dammy

[Atheist]

justthatgood wrote:

Ever feel like some people are waiting for the coming of the Messiah?  Maybe it has to do something about some peoples' professed faith in certain "religions" whatever they be. :-?

Yeah.

I am.

[Waccoon]

Hyperion was foolish to make it one board specific.

I dont think that decision was made by Hyperion. I believe it is AmigaINC that has stopped OS4 from running on various hardware by demanding people to pay huge amounts for a license. I believe several board manufactor has asked for a license, but they either got zero response from Amiga inc or they werent willing to go with the terms.

Amiga has stated many times that they are not a hardware company.  The PPC decision was made by Hyperion.  I don't know about the chipset-specific decision, though it makes sense given the resources required to support multiple chipsets, and Eyetech was the only company to step up and provide hardware.

It's pretty obvious that Amiga Inc. doesn't really care what happens to AmigaOS.  I'm under the impression that Hyperion is calling most of the shots, now, when it comes to the platforms supported by AmigaOS.  They have to do most of the work, after all.

[Kathyone]

Dammy,

I have never had the chance to look at the AROS internals although I am familiar with the effort from the beginning. I have been associated with the Amiga from 1987.

I am a trained Assembly language, c, c++, and Java programmer with 24 years experience.

I have a PPC design that can use Amiga OS 4 with little or no porting needed.

The AMD might be better with AROS but that is something I cannot comment on without being familiar with the internals.

I also have an alternative OS that is even smaller, faster and lighter than OS 4 or AROS.

Embedded developers know it well.  They already finished an AMiga port some years ago.  That is all I will say at this point. You can research it and you will know who it is.

Kathyone

[Kathyone]

Hey defender of the faith,

Good for you. Let me just say I have worked with the amiga as a developer and OS tester since 1987.
I am a computer programmer by degree with specialty in Assembly language programming and embedded systems.

I already have a patentable design that can be prototyped in 30 days or less, guaranteed.

Let me just state that I can use either the PPC or the AMD with minor design changes since my processor and memory are on upgradeable cards that just plug in.

The design form factor is a standard and well known but smaller and more modular than the present Micro ATX form factor you are looking at.

Let me just say that it is an embedded SBC or single board computer that doesn't need a backplane for power to save cost. I will just license the embedded OS I mentioned on another forum, but for fairness I will restate that it already has an amiga port done. NO waiting. It will run the amiga programs now.

I must work out an agreement and then I can tell you more. Hyperion must give me an answer. I contacted them by e-mail and contacted others to get their phone #.

That shows I'm serious.  I had an agreement and approval for my design from the SBA in 2000.  Then I moved to Canada.
I am still a US citizen, and always will be. Just a permanent resident of Canada.  My husband is from Six Nations reserve in Ontario Canada.  I am a native NY from Buffalo, NY.

Getting this done is easy with the proper cash and contacts.
I can get one and I have the other.

That is enough about me for now.

[Kathyone]

To answer your question, no problem but without the code you can't ROM anything.

Hyperion must provide the licensing. It isn't a technical problem but a legal one.

Otherwise you would just be a hacker. I'm not. I'm a professional programmer that plays by the rules. The Golden Rule and all that.

[dammy]

I have never had the chance to look at the AROS internals although I am familiar with the effort from the beginning. I have been associated with the Amiga from 1987.

AROS documentation can be found here.  Asking questions would be best on either the AROS-Dev ML here or post on AROS-Exec.  If you want to know more about AROS' developement direction, try irc.freenode.org on #aros and if mschulz is around, ask him.

Dammy

[humppa]

@Kathyone

Hyperion must provide the licensing.

No, you are wrong. Amiga Inc. must provide the licensing.

See http://www.amiga.com/amigaos/
"AmigaOne Partners have the right to distribute AmigaOS 4.0 into the AmigaOne desktop computer market and into Cyberstorm PPC enabled devices.  Distribution into any other market or device requires a licensing and distribution agreement with Amiga, Inc. For information on licensing, adaptation or modification of any existing Amiga Operating System, please contact,  technologylicensing@amiga.com"