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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2006, 01:56:32 AM »
@Kathyone

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Hyperion must provide the licensing.


No, you are wrong. Amiga Inc. must provide the licensing.

See http://www.amiga.com/amigaos/
"AmigaOne Partners have the right to distribute AmigaOS 4.0 into the AmigaOne desktop computer market and into Cyberstorm PPC enabled devices.  Distribution into any other market or device requires a licensing and distribution agreement with Amiga, Inc. For information on licensing, adaptation or modification of any existing Amiga Operating System, please contact,  technologylicensing@amiga.com"
 

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #30 on: March 16, 2006, 07:17:58 AM »
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Maybe you never used much the OS... :roll:


You mean OS2.x/3.x yes, I used them for many years, OS4, no, why would I bother? No modern web browser, no modern games, no...ah I'm wasting valuable energy now, this has all been covered many times before.
 

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #31 on: March 16, 2006, 07:49:39 AM »
TO Kathy Elliot

IMO the best way to avoid legal problem is buying Eyetech.

Is this possible?

If you want to use X86, it's better to use cheap X86 board with a PCI card or USB dongle for copyright protection.

Perhaps you can limit the support to certain chipset, certain video card etc.

Do you have any budget for promotion / marketing?

Is "Mystical Rose Technologies" a registered company in Canada / USA?
 

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #32 on: March 16, 2006, 09:36:26 AM »
@Kathyone

Can you give us an indication of possible specs or price?

(not that it matters really. users wanting to run os4 will take just about anything that comes along)

I didnt quite understand what you were saying before.. is OS4 ported to this mobo already somehow?
 

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #33 on: March 16, 2006, 10:51:43 AM »
@adz

If we all had your attitude this forum wouldn't exist. Do you think of the Amiga as anything other than a retro games machine? FCOL man we need progress and whilst we sometimes get frustrated waiting, to come to the conclusion that only "classic rebuilds" like minimig are worth support whilst slating attempts at real progress make my blood boil.
As all my friends know I like my blood warm so unless you've got something constructive to add......no I thought not. Perhaps you should use your oh so bl**dy valuable energy to code something modern for OS4. Then again...why bother.


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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #34 on: March 16, 2006, 11:17:08 AM »
@Tripitaka

I think you just have to accept the fact that not everyone is interested in OS4/MOS/AROS but only in classics (or real Amigas like some say).

After all Amiga is a retro gaming machine to the majority out there. They dont give a {bleep} to our MOS/OS4.
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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #35 on: March 16, 2006, 11:25:38 AM »
I SMELL HERESY!
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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #36 on: March 16, 2006, 11:36:14 AM »
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Do you think of the Amiga as anything other than a retro games machine? FCOL man we need progress


Last time I checked there was no other options than keeping on with my trusty Classic machine.
Or does Godfrey's in Lowestoft have any Amy's in stock now? Must have missed that ;-)
Progress, well, I can't see any. Hyperion did not even receive an Amy-prototype yet. So what progress is being made exactly?
 

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #37 on: March 16, 2006, 12:26:45 PM »
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If we all had your attitude this forum wouldn't exist. Do you think of the Amiga as anything other than a retro games machine?


This site aint amigaworld, we are not zombies who bow down to everything amiga and arse lick companies who screw us over time and time again. Me (and others) have bad attitudes towards this crappy new amiga because to be quite honest it SUCKS and it is a disgusting insult to the amiga name.The amiga should have been left in the past where it was remembered as being great, instead of being insulted with crap like the amigaone and that glorified OS3.9
 

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #38 on: March 16, 2006, 01:52:24 PM »
@Savan
So you come here to say how crappy AmigaOS4 is, based on what? So the world doesn't quite fit to your needs(as for the path choosen and the choices available) but then again there's minimig which might well fit...

As for this isn't AW part of your post... you might well presume that the condition for not being a zombie is thinking that it (the new Amiga and its OS) has to suck, but that would bring another debate


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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #39 on: March 16, 2006, 03:51:25 PM »
Possible options:

1. There is an exchangable CPU card with various type of CPU is VSPA from SiliconBandwidth / Panda / Rock City for Pentium II / 400 MHz in 1998.

"The Panda Project, Inc. Monday introduced the Rock City ST-400, the latest addition to its award-winning line of stylish Rock City personal computers. The Rock City ST-400 features an Intel 400MHz Pentium II Processor with MMX Technology, AGP support and 100MHz bus capability, at a base price of $2,595. Panda expects to introduce advanced Alpha-based models and upgradeable models of Rock City that incorporate VSPA and Compass technologies to extract additional performance at a very low price point in a small form factor."

2. Multicomputer standard from Ziatech / PICMG standard, but Ziatech was bought by Intel.

3. Perhaps you can use HTX bus/connector, because both AMD Opteron and PowerPC G5 support Hypertransport.

http://www.hypertransport.org/tech/tech_specs_conn.cfm

4. SlotServer technology.

http://www.south14.com

> No porting

Do you use PowerPC CPU card with the buggy MAI Logic chipset?
 

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #40 on: March 16, 2006, 03:54:42 PM »
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Amiga has stated many times that they are not a hardware company. The PPC decision was made by Hyperion. I don't know about the chipset-specific decision, though it makes sense given the resources required to support multiple chipsets, and Eyetech was the only company to step up and provide hardware.

That is odd, because i can clearly recall that AmigaINC announced the so called zeca specs for the AmigaONE name. Also hyperion was not hired to port the OS before years after the AmigaONE and OS4 was announced. Hyperion didnt have any part in choosing the hardware, as it was all up to Amiga and Eyetech.
 

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #41 on: March 16, 2006, 06:50:14 PM »
At least someone is standing up on Amigaworld and putting some of the blame on Hyperion (despite the usual {bleep}s calling him/her a troll)

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=18013&forum=33

Very true though. Hyperion have been made out to be innocent Amiga heroes for years but in fact they are the stupid {bleep}s who have shafted themselves by doing buisness with dirty crooks. How the hell can anyone defend a company what closes their eyes when doing deals? OS4 will end in tears no thanks to Hyperion.
 

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #42 on: March 16, 2006, 07:10:52 PM »
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AmigaOne Alive?


No.
Someone has to state the obvious and that someone is me!
 

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #43 on: March 16, 2006, 08:02:27 PM »
Hyperion are making their work, what are them to blame? Of producing an OS? Get out of here...


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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #44 from previous page: March 16, 2006, 10:14:38 PM »
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If we all had your attitude this forum wouldn't exist.


Ummm, yes this forum would exist, as the classic user ratio far outweighs the OS4 user ratio.

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Do you think of the Amiga as anything other than a retro games machine?


Yes, it was a games machine then and its a games machine now.

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FCOL man we need progress and whilst we sometimes get frustrated waiting,


I'm not waiting for anything, already got all the Amiga's I want.

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to come to the conclusion that only "classic rebuilds" like minimig are worth support whilst slating attempts at real progress make my blood boil.


Better calm down, you might explode ;-)

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As all my friends know I like my blood warm so unless you've got something constructive to add......no I thought not.


I've added far more constructive content to this thread than you.

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Perhaps you should use your oh so bl**dy valuable energy to code something modern for OS4. Then again...why bother.


Exactly, why bother, I'd rather spend my time on something that will actually generate an income.


Forgive my rather direct reply, but I give what I get and I never like to sugar-coat anything.