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Offline adz

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #44 from previous page: March 16, 2006, 10:14:38 PM »
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If we all had your attitude this forum wouldn't exist.


Ummm, yes this forum would exist, as the classic user ratio far outweighs the OS4 user ratio.

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Do you think of the Amiga as anything other than a retro games machine?


Yes, it was a games machine then and its a games machine now.

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FCOL man we need progress and whilst we sometimes get frustrated waiting,


I'm not waiting for anything, already got all the Amiga's I want.

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to come to the conclusion that only "classic rebuilds" like minimig are worth support whilst slating attempts at real progress make my blood boil.


Better calm down, you might explode ;-)

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As all my friends know I like my blood warm so unless you've got something constructive to add......no I thought not.


I've added far more constructive content to this thread than you.

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Perhaps you should use your oh so bl**dy valuable energy to code something modern for OS4. Then again...why bother.


Exactly, why bother, I'd rather spend my time on something that will actually generate an income.


Forgive my rather direct reply, but I give what I get and I never like to sugar-coat anything.
 

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #45 on: March 16, 2006, 10:44:23 PM »
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Hyperion are making their work, what are them to blame? Of producing an OS? Get out of here...


Hyperion are the stupid ones for making deals with well known crooks, Amiga Inc was known for being crooked {bleep}s well before OS4 came out. Hyperion freely went in to buisness with Amiga Inc and Eyetech, when the {bleep} hit the fan the silly fans jumped to their defence with their "Hyperion are not the baddies, Amiga Inc are". I do not understand why everyone still has hardons for Hyperion, they are no better than Amiga Inc and Eyetech.

Yeah give them credit for OS4 (i do) but in the end it is their own fault for ending up with a hardwareless OS, even Amithlon has more life over OS4 and thats saying something.

If your stupid enough to do buisness with known crooks then you reap what you sow.
 

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #46 on: March 16, 2006, 11:32:03 PM »
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Yeah give them credit for OS4 (i do) but in the end it is their own fault for ending up with a hardwareless OS, even Amithlon has more life over OS4 and thats saying something.
You really should get out more... :roll:


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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #47 on: March 26, 2011, 04:14:18 PM »
Quote from: Kathyone;238893
I am currently negotiating with Hyperion to provide a new amiga motherboard or using an existing or brand new design.
I want Hyperion to eliminate the need for a ROM, or I'll have to add a new one to the board design. This will slow things down.  However, flash ROM won't be much of a problem.
I want to use a dual core set-up.

Hyperion was foolish to make it one board specific.
They now say on their website that they will work with you to port the OS to a new chip if necessary. I was thinking of AMD. The chips are well supported and have a future.

Kathy Elliott
Mystical Rose Technologies
Former Amiga Developer and OS Tester



Hmmm...and years later now:

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=33444&forum=34

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #48 on: March 26, 2011, 04:37:25 PM »
if AMIGA is dead, what are all you doing here ?
 
The title says AMIGA.ORG, not AROS, or MORPHOS, or OSX or WINDOWS or LINUX.
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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #49 on: March 26, 2011, 08:47:44 PM »
Quote from: number6;624826
Hmmm...and years later now:

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=33444&forum=34

#6

Well I believe the poster meant P5020 processors (not 55020) and QorIQ  processors (which the P5020 is one of) are plausible.
I'm not so sure about the comments on ARM processor based laptops or getting the name for PCIe (which is PCI Express not Extreme) wrong.
Also you don't go from diagrams or schematics to production. The processors she's mentioned would need a multi-layer board (about 8 to 10 layer), all carefully laid out.

I'm skeptical, but let's wait and see.
BTW - Freescale still has the P5020 and P5010 under an NDA and your not going to get the technical info needed to work with them without a corporate e-mail address and a signed NDA.
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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #50 on: March 26, 2011, 08:53:01 PM »
As to new AmigaOnes, we've got the X1000 which should be introduced soon.
And Acube has the SAM440 and 460.
A-eon may consider the QorIQ and e5500 cored processors for later products.

With an almost 5 year gap in posts, this above mentioned reference may be more vaporware.
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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #51 on: March 26, 2011, 10:12:45 PM »
Well, just for giggles, I download and tried Slitaz, and it does boot quick. 12 seconds and that's from the CD Rom after decompression of the kernel. Nice...

Now, if they'd only take a lesson from GoboLinux and lose the ugly file-system, and revamp Linux commands to something less cryptic, we might actually have an "Amiga-like" solution here. Of course, they need to do a little more than that and I certainly don't expect them to, so I'm just blathering. :)
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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #52 on: March 26, 2011, 10:15:04 PM »
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Well, just for giggles, I download and tried Slitaz, and it does boot quick. 12 seconds and that's from the CD Rom after decompression of the kernel. Nice...

Now, if they'd only take a lesson from GoboLinux and lose the ugly file-system, and revamp Linux commands to something less cryptic, we might actually have an "Amiga-like" solution here. Of course, they need to do a little more than that and I certainly don't expect them to, so I'm just blathering. :)


Your easily amused aren't you... that sounded like a bundle of fun... ;)
 

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AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #53 on: March 26, 2011, 10:37:12 PM »
Quote from: number6;624826
Hmmm...and years later now:

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=33444&forum=34

#6


Same troll post was sent to the AROS dev list this morning with each occurence of the word Amiga replaced with AROS.
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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #54 on: March 26, 2011, 10:42:29 PM »
Quote from: nicholas;624872
Same troll post was sent to the AROS dev list this morning with each occurence of the word Amiga replaced with AROS.


OK, I found it a bit dubious as the poster claims to have finished a design with a processor that isn't available yet (and gets the processor name wrong and the meaning of PCIe wrong).
I guess I should count on one of these for Christmas?
"Not making any hard and fast rules means that the moderators can use their good judgment in moderation, and we think the results speak for themselves." - Amiga.org, terms of service

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #55 on: March 27, 2011, 06:01:43 AM »
Been away for awhile and I'm again puzzled by the forum...last time here the new Sam 440 Amiga was available...what has happened since last year?
It looks like there are no Amiga's having been developed or built or have they been scrapped?
Can anyone help my questions?
Has the 440 board been improved, replaced or ...?

Thank you

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #56 on: March 27, 2011, 06:08:34 AM »
Pegasos is still being made ? Is anyone in the hardware business anymore ...is it all just Amiga software that is available? I'm speaking of OS4.xx hardware.
 

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #57 on: March 27, 2011, 06:08:54 AM »
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Why waste your time and resources? You may as well throw your money into the fireplace, the Amiga is dead, end of story.


Hi,

My Amiga is old but not dead, I turn it on every night.
The other day I thought it was dead, but it was just snickering

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #58 on: March 27, 2011, 06:17:29 AM »
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Dammy,

I have never had the chance to look at the AROS internals although I am familiar with the effort from the beginning. I have been associated with the Amiga from 1987.

I am a trained Assembly language, c, c++, and Java programmer with 24 years experience.

I have a PPC design that can use Amiga OS 4 with little or no porting needed.

The AMD might be better with AROS but that is something I cannot comment on without being familiar with the internals.

I also have an alternative OS that is even smaller, faster and lighter than OS 4 or AROS.

Embedded developers know it well.  They already finished an AMiga port some years ago.  That is all I will say at this point. You can research it and you will know who it is.

Kathyone


Hi,

I have been saying that all along, that they should of went with AMD a long time ago, but these looney Amiga people couldn't see that PPC was not only slow but it was actually fading away in developement, now it seems to be dead. I have heard of someone trying to port AmigaOS over to X86 but I just took it as rumor.

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #59 on: March 27, 2011, 06:30:12 AM »
Quote from: Savan;239332
At least someone is standing up on Amigaworld and putting some of the blame on Hyperion (despite the usual {bleep}s calling him/her a troll)

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=18013&forum=33

Very true though. Hyperion have been made out to be innocent Amiga heroes for years but in fact they are the stupid {bleep}s who have shafted themselves by doing buisness with dirty crooks. How the hell can anyone defend a company what closes their eyes when doing deals? OS4 will end in tears no thanks to Hyperion.


Hi,

@Savan,

Actually Amiga Inc. started it all by hiring Eyetech to build the boards and Hyperion to program the software, it seemed that for the first year, Eyetech changed the hardware around a few times then quit, and left the scene if I remember right, Amiga Inc. still contracted Hyperion to program the software, then I guess the money ran out at Amiga Inc. and then Hyperion took them to court or Amiga Inc. took them to court or both of them took them to court and thats were they stayed for the next umpteen years. Now I could be wrong with all this because actually rumors where flying all over the place and it is all because the Amiga community couldn't decide on the right CPU to use.

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