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Re: Why is there no good scandoublers to be found?
« Reply #29 from previous page: September 24, 2005, 05:28:14 AM »
16-bit is better than what scandoublers designed for OCS/ECS can do (12-bit), but I doubt it handles all the funny resolutions the Amiga can put out.

I've got a rough design in my head for a hybrid internal/external 24-bit scandoubler.  Basically a CPLD, some SRAMS (they don't make 5V DRAMs anymore), a Triple 8-bit DAC, and a Triple 8-bit ADC and few latches and tri-state-able buffers (mostly so I don't need a CPLD with a ridiculous pin count).  The ADC and 23-pin D-Sub connector could be easily dropped to make a less expensive internal-only version (the PCB would probably still be the same unless I hand manufacture them).

Might play around with it a bit to see if I can get something working with some spare parts I have here.  Don't get your hopes up though.
 

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Re: Why is there no good scandoublers to be found?
« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2005, 07:31:12 AM »
Check out this Ebay auction which is not a perfect solution but it does the job in Pal Hires very well and at a  starting bid of one USD and will certainly not go as high as those other "real" scandoublers  :-)

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Re: Why is there no good scandoublers to be found?
« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2005, 03:52:54 PM »
I have asked this question a few times and never really been satisfied with the answer. I suppose it all depends, but whey couldn't I use my Supergen to pass the Amiga video output to a TV/monitor or a composite monitor? My wife used to watch her games off a VCR using the genlock to send out the signal. She analyzed her shoot-em-ups to improve her game. Another question I have is why can't I use a bridgecard and a svga video card to send a signal to a normal svga monitor? I suppose in the second case it's a question of the bridgecard not being able to pass the Amiga picture through? I don't have a manual for the bridgecard, it came as a 'happy surprise' when I bought a couple of used A2000s on ebay. Lastly, what about someone(or a team) making a list of flat screen monitors, rgb projectors, etc that can scan down to 15hz? It would be a handy addition to this site since a lot of us Amiga hardware junkies are having to deal with old monitors getting harder to find. I have two 1084s in my garage marked, "dead" and "mostly dead" and three mostly useless multisynch monitors that just don't quite reach 15 hz.
 

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Re: Why is there no good scandoublers to be found?
« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2005, 06:06:00 PM »
The whole Amiga and monitors thing does cause a few problems. I've given up on getting a scandoubler and have decided to bid on one of those Magic VGA boxes that are designed for playing consoles off a PC monitor. I hope the quality's ok.
 

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Re: Why is there no good scandoublers to be found?
« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2005, 09:15:16 PM »
At Ebay there´s a nice Micronik Zorro scandoubler for sale that will end in less than an hour. At the moment it´s at 60 Euro ... don´´t know if this is good enough for you ???  :-?

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Re: Why is there no good scandoublers to be found?
« Reply #34 on: September 25, 2005, 01:31:36 AM »
One problem with Magic VGA... isn't the composite port on the A1200 only black and white?

Here's one on auction connected to an amiga... screen shots are there:

http://cgi.ebay.com/External-scandoubler-tested-on-Amiga-1200_W0QQitemZ5245748949QQcategoryZ4598QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



Amiga 1200 030/50mhz 64MB Fast Ram 20GB HD
DTCV, S-Video hack, 1084S-D1, PCMCIA Wireless
 

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Re: Why is there no good scandoublers to be found?
« Reply #35 on: September 25, 2005, 07:23:41 AM »
Those with a PC next to their Amiga might want to consider
using a TV-tuner card as a way to get the Amiga's video onto
the VGA monitor.

I have an RGB->S-video converter and the output goes to an
older TV-tuner card (BT-848 chipset). Not only does it
de-interlace but has the added bonus of letting me stretch
the screen out to about 710x480 which is outside the visible
area on some 15KHz TVs/monitors. The disadvantage is that
PAL screen modes have no color. Also, the full 1280
resolution can't be displayed.