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Amiga Acknowledges T-shirts Shipping
« on: January 17, 2005, 11:10:57 PM »
Amiga is happy to announce the long awaited t-shirts have shipped and should be arriving as you read this message.  

Garry Hare, CEO of KMOS and Amiga, said, "It's about time, isn't it?"

Prior to shipping Amiga constructed as accurate a mailing list as possible.

Happy New Year.

source: www.amiga.com
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Re: Amiga Acknowledges T-shirts Shipping
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2005, 11:47:53 PM »
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Amiga is happy to announce the long awaited t-shirts have shipped and should be arriving as you read this message.  

Garry Hare, CEO of KMOS and Amiga, said, "It's about time, isn't it?"

Prior to shipping Amiga constructed as accurate a mailing list as possible.

Happy New Year.

source: www.amiga.com



Cue the "blue trolls" insisting that amiga.com has been hacked, or it's all a big conspiracy/lie that the red trolls have concocted up.

You all know who you are! ;-)
 

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Re: Amiga Acknowledges T-shirts Shipping
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2005, 12:38:01 AM »
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Amiga is happy to announce the long awaited t-shirts have shipped and should be arriving as you read this message.  

Garry Hare, CEO of KMOS and Amiga, said, "It's about time, isn't it?"

Prior to shipping Amiga constructed as accurate a mailing list as possible.

Happy New Year.

source: www.amiga.com



How long have you guys been waiting?
 

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Re: Amiga Acknowledges T-shirts Shipping
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2005, 12:47:14 AM »
It's about time!!!!
Anyone going to post a picture of the shirt, I'd love to see what it looks like.
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Re: Amiga Acknowledges T-shirts Shipping
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2005, 12:52:15 AM »
This is turning in to a great year, already.

I just got my new AmigaOne uA1-c, my T-shirt turns up and Amiga Inc is saying little and getting things done at last.

Maybe bbrv will shutup and start doing positive things as well!
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Re: Amiga Acknowledges T-shirts Shipping
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2005, 01:04:41 AM »
There's loads of pics over at amigaworld.

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Re: Amiga Acknowledges T-shirts Shipping
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2005, 01:57:57 AM »
Hey!! I just got my AMIGA T Shirt!!!
How friggin COOL!
Woops, that was a bit geeky wasn't it.
*silent inside huge woo hoo!!!

p.s. I could make pics I suppose?
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Re: Amiga Acknowledges T-shirts Shipping
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2005, 02:22:51 AM »
You guys are too much.  I wouldn't pat KMOS/Amiga Inc. on the back too vigorously.  After all, you did pay $50 for a crappy t-shirt.  
Time to move on.  Bye Amiga.org.  :(
 

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Re: Amiga Acknowledges T-shirts Shipping
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2005, 03:26:40 AM »
It's nice to see a positive direction from the new leadership.  It's a nice gesture and I don't think it needs any more comment (speculation) than that.  It's a good start in a positive direction for Gary and Amiga, Inc.  I look forward to more.  I'd just like to say thanks.  (and I don't even get a shirt) :-D
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Re: Amiga Acknowledges T-shirts Shipping
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2005, 04:02:07 AM »
@ Ray,

Thanks.  While not worth taking pictures of, maybe this is the first of many "baby steps" on the way to maturity.  Perhaps a bit unfortunately too late with the Mac Mini coming out, but a good gesture nonetheless.

Also unfortunate is the fact that there are those (seen here and elsewhere) who may never shut up, even if you give everyone free AmigaOne systems.  Such is life, and it's a hard road that Gary, Bill and crew will have to walk in order to even begin to "break even".  Thanks for trying at least.

@ To everyone else,
I'm not excusing anyone here, nor am I taking sides.  It took them damned near two years to give out t-shirts.  T-shirts for God's sake.  All I am saying here is that it should be taken as a sign of good faith that they're even trying.  

If t-shirts took two years, BillandFleecyCo had better start pulling miracles out of their butts in rapid fashion, but alas my personal feeling is that the Mac mini will impact any potential market that Amiga Inc (and even Genesi) might have had far more than they can (or should) admit.

Hopefully (and I say this with a grain of salt), the arrival of T-shirts is merely harbinger for the long-awaited AmigaOS 4.x...  I just can't seem to get my hopes up any more -- even if it's true -- but we'll see.  

In the end, all I'm saying to anyone reading this is that with these shirts (and the recent news regarding Genesi scuttling their involvement with MorphOS) it would seem that we -- as a community -- have an opportunity here to actually help one another rather than the traditional thrashing of swords.  A monumental shift as it were.  I'm not advocating Amiga Inc, any more than I am advocating the MorphOS team here, I just feel more would come out of working together than continuing to try to sabotage public opinion towards EITHER effort.  

Both Amiga Inc and Genesi are guilty of far more ineptitude than could ever be counted, but in my book both companies are pretty much even on every count.

- screwing employees over?  check.
- screwing their respective communities over?  check.
- being pretty much insolvent?  check.
- being run by people whose ethics could be questioned?  check.

So, in my book, it's a dead tie.  Let's get over ourselves and look at the bigger pictures here.  

The recently-orphaned MorphOS team needs our support, and let's give Amiga/KMOS at least SOME credit for sending out shirts.  Hell, after two years let's face, they didn't really HAVE to send out shirts.  Like someone said, most recipients will probably have long-since forgotten both the Amiga and why they're getting a shirt.  

Hopefully some of those who can't remember what the hell the shirt is for will go "oh yeah" and show up here occassionally looking for new news.

Listen...  I know this is difficult.  I know you guys aren't normally in tune with reason, and I know that most of you will sit and pedantically pick this post apart for your own amusement.  But... (in short) for once, let's try to put all this {bleep} behind us -- on both sides -- and see if we can't actually get some good out of it.  I for one sorely miss the old Amiga community.

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Re: Amiga Acknowledges T-shirts Shipping
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2005, 05:11:09 AM »
@Wayne

True, I had forgotten about them then today a parcel arrived.
I think it's a really great sign. KMOS promised it would deliver, even though it thought it very un nessasary.

Well done, KMOS, you kept your fist promise, let it be many more! you have restored my faith a little here!!
But it's really not about faith, its knowing you will get a deliverd product that you payed for. It company assurence, support. In a transition like the one AMIGA had being bought out like that, you would expect mayhem on product dates and arrival times. Who knows where the T shirt design was at or if it even had one when KMOS picked up the reigns.

Really well done, it shows serious interest in the products being worked on. It's a very good sign and I think, although a silly inconvenience for you(KMOS), a smart marketing move. there will be many people now saying, hey, KMOS deliver.
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Re: Amiga Acknowledges T-shirts Shipping
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2005, 07:38:30 AM »
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You guys are too much.  I wouldn't pat KMOS/Amiga Inc. on the back too vigorously.  After all, you did pay $50 for a crappy t-shirt.  

The Teee-Shirts???
 :-o
Reeeeeaaaally???
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I can't believe it!!!
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Now I'm really curious, what size they will assign to me - I would need XXXL (and I told them via e-mail, but never got any reply).

I'd nearly bet they'll assign me an "S" sized one - but one has to take this into account if he deals with "centrally planned economy" (everything's on schedule and rockin / it's done when it's done), IIRC...

But independant of that - I always said that it's far more important *and even decisive for me* to get that 50-Euro-rebate-coupon in order to ever buy something "next gen Amiga".

How about that one - is it going to be delivered together with the T-Shirts?

But I'm afraid I'll be left in the rain with this one, as I never heard one of the new owners say a single word on that.

If so, Gary Hare made a bad deal with view on possible customers - then he would have been better off by forgetting about the shirts and just sending the coupons out - this might have been less expensive.

But now it looks like I just get a f****n' T-Shirt for 50 Euros (wich possibly will fit my grandson), am left frauded with regard to the 50-Euro-rebate and Gary Hare lost an potential customer (but maybe he prooves me wrong and sends out the coupons as well)...
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Re: Amiga Acknowledges T-shirts Shipping
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2005, 08:45:53 AM »
May be a bit off topic, but I can't understand all the hype about the mac mini destroying the "amiga market".. It has been always like if you want to run amigaos, you have to pay more.. Before the mac mini there were enough cheaper alternatives too.. people could have bought an emac, or a cheap 2nd hand mac, or even a 3ghz x86 for less than the amigaone boards.. but the main reason for paying that much for old hardware ist not thats ppc, but that its running amigaos4.. nearly everybody has a pc/mac at home anyway, so they don't buy these boards because they (excluding) desperatly need it for "serious work" anyway..

However, its great that the tshirts are finally beeing sent out.. I feel much less cheated now and hope that mine arrives today..
 

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Re: Amiga Acknowledges T-shirts Shipping
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2005, 11:23:56 AM »
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May be a bit off topic, but I can't understand all the hype about the mac mini destroying the "amiga market".. It has been always like if you want to run amigaos, you have to pay more.. Before the mac mini there were enough cheaper alternatives too.. people could have bought an emac, or a cheap 2nd hand mac, or even a 3ghz x86 for less than the amigaone boards.. but the main reason for paying that much for old hardware ist not thats ppc, but that its running amigaos4.. nearly everybody has a pc/mac at home anyway, so they don't buy these boards because they (excluding) desperatly need it for "serious work" anyway..


I agree with rayt, I don't think the Mini-Mac will have a huge effect on anything Amiga.

I think the reason that the Mini-Mac has caused such debate is for psychological reasons... we have here a £399 computer, without monitor?  It's in exactly the same niche that the A1200 was 10 years ago.  That was my thought when I read about it, and I thought "damn, they're in our market".

But then I realised it's aimed at the mainstream, it can do anything a mainstream Windows PC can, it's for the average joe.

I think Amiga still has some time before we can aim at this mainstream marketplace.  When more modern software is developed then things can start to happen.  For now, we're very much in the computing enthusiast market, which is no bad thing of course.  But when it does happen, I think we could follow in Apple's footsteps and perhaps become a direct competitor with them.  There is certainly space for another mainstream platform alongside Windows and Apple.

 

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Re: Amiga Acknowledges T-shirts Shipping
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2005, 12:03:31 PM »
Not that my t-shirt has arrived yet, me being way out in the sticks, but I'm wondering what to change that part of my sig to next... :-)