morphos vs amiga os4

[Psy]

i just want to know the technical scientific differences between them

Simply

Morphos is a rewrite that is backwards compatible

Amiga OS 4 is a port (with new stuff)

It is pointless to go farther then that due to

a) Lack of info on OS 4

b) MorphOS is currently in public beta

[Psy]

Look all I'm saying is that MorphOS is in a beta like state right now and hopefully 1.4 will solve most if not all the problems with 1.3 like floppy support.

[Psy]

MOS will probably never support them - the catweasel is there for them and does the job *much* better anyway.

Great so people that buy the Pegasos will have a place to plug in their floppy on the mother board but to get it to work with MorphOS you got to buy catweasle.

If that is the case I hope USB floppy drives would be a work around.

[Psy]

But floppies are still by far the cheapest solution for small data transfer.  If I want to say take my Resume since it can fit on a disk and a disk can easily fit in my pocket and a disk is dirt cheap I would put it on a disk and not bother with CDRW or USB-memory-modules since then if lets say I want to give the disk to someone I really don't care if they give it back to me or not while with a CDRW or USB-memory-module I would.

This is why some Mac users use USB floppy drives.

[Psy]

why floppy? why do people in the year 2003 care about wether their floppy disks will work or not??

Becouse they are the cheapest media.  The floppy is so cheap I can use it once and throw it away and not care just pull out another freash one since the days of recycling disketts are over due to their cheapness.

No other medium (besides tape) is as cheap as disketts.

[Psy]

Yes if it is is more then a few megs of course floppy is no longer a efficent option.  Yet if all you need to do is send say a PDF of less then a meg to someone outside the network it is simple matter of copying it to the floppy putting a lable on it, move or take out the write protection tab then just find the person in question and finally fling it at them (or if you are more polite hand it to them).

[Psy]

id rather have a zip drive than FDD&zip...

I know where you comming from, losing my ablity to burn would be much more of a problem then losing my ablity to use a floppy but having to switch to Linux just to use the floppy would be of some inconvenience.

[Psy]

Indeed floppy is far the best and most perfect solution for transfer,I am so ********* *** ***** tired of swapping harddrives and burning cds and even emailing myself every time i need any tiny little file,that floppy support should be there ASAP.

That's what I'm talking about but if it is that much of a problem you know you could network a PC to the it, not a great solution but I put my 486/80 on my home network to get information from  5 1/4 floppies to my other computers.

[Psy]

About the floppy support mentioned here. I too think it's one of those "features" I will never miss. Everything can be transferred using usb memory, zip-disk, network or a cd.

Not really I do run into PCs with no USB ports and no Zip-disk just a floppy drive and a CD drive.

To copy a few K (I mostly use 720K Disketts since they all I need to move small bits of data) it is a waste for CDs thus floppy is the only logical way to send data to older PCs.

[Psy]

@Psy
Yes of course you're right. I don't have USB's in three of my work computers either. Majority do though. And all my computers at home has usb, except for Amiga. I don't say the floppy support is useless, but at the moment there are lot more important things than that.

Yhea I agree there are more important things in MorphOS to do but floppy is still the standard for small data transfer (even though devlopment stoped like Sega's 3 inch (yes 3 inch half a inch smaller) drive in the 80's and the 2.88 MB)

Yes catwealse fixes the problem and adds Amiga floppy support.  Yet I've stoped using Amiga disketts besides the ones I  for Classic hardware as Amiga disketts don't exactly work on PCs or Macs making Amiga disketts uselss for transfer except to other Amigas.

As for wasting cd's, why not make multisessions? Should save you a few dimes... not that it's not an issue, a cd-r costs around 0.60€

I just find it a waste to load up a burning program for less then a meg.   Yes CDs are cheap but Disketts are still cheaper, I can get 720K disketts for FREE so hard to beat.

[Psy]

Oh come on, what do you transfer, text files? Of all the MOS owners I know, absolutely none of them is interested in floppy support. To transfer big files you'd need to archive and span, which is even more trouble than burning a CD.

A directory of a project on my HD : 3 Word files + 11 jpegs + 1 PDF = 464k

Another of directory of the same project:  2 Word files + 15 jpegs + 1 text file + 2 PDFs = 542k

I could put a either onto a 720k disk since each is a part and conatinas everything I need to work on said part or put both on a single 1.44 and still have room and both cases is without compression.

[Psy]

Well, what use are Word files on a Pegasos?

Sooner or later someone will port an MS Office compatible office suite like open office.

 And what's better than the net for transferring jpg?

No really the fastest way to transfer jpgs over the net that you don't want other people seeing is e-mail and it gets kinda annoying e-mailing your self over and over again..

And anyway, it's been a while since I've seen a Word file or a decent quality jpeg below the 1.44MB size.

I never ran across  too many single jpegs over a meg that I needed to transfer.

As for Word, what kinda of documents do you run into?  It takes alot to get a word file over 1.44 MB unless it is pages long.

[Psy]

Who says it stopped? Sony and Fuji have developed the HiFD floppy disks/drives out there, holds 200MB+ data on a floppy disk.

Not really the 2.88 MB never caught on thus the PC is stuck at 1.44 MB.  Yes there is stuff like HiFD and superdisk yet for some reason they are not standard on PCs while 1.44 are.

As soon as the industry picks superdisk,HiFD or even Jazz/Zip as a standard and they get put in every new PC then yes I would say 1.44 would be dead.