morphos vs amiga os4

[iamaboringperson]

honestly:  if i could save 50c not having the FDD connector on the MB, i would buy a pegasos or amigaone with out it  :-P

[Psy]

id rather have a zip drive than FDD&zip...

I know where you comming from, losing my ablity to burn would be much more of a problem then losing my ablity to use a floppy but having to switch to Linux just to use the floppy would be of some inconvenience.

[Psy]

Indeed floppy is far the best and most perfect solution for transfer,I am so ********* *** ***** tired of swapping harddrives and burning cds and even emailing myself every time i need any tiny little file,that floppy support should be there ASAP.

That's what I'm talking about but if it is that much of a problem you know you could network a PC to the it, not a great solution but I put my 486/80 on my home network to get information from  5 1/4 floppies to my other computers.

[gary_c]

Just this morning my 7-year-old son picked a floppy disk up off the floor (OK, I'm kinda sloppy.) and asked "What's this?" I'm not sure if it was the disk itself he was asking about or the contents. But we don't use floppies anymore either. Actually to transfer little bits of data, if it's on the network I use that. Otherwise I use a digicam (memory stick) via USB. This is on Windows. If MOS and AOS had transparent support for USB memory, it'd be great. The sticks (and probably other memory cards as well) just show up as a disk; couldn't be easier.

-- gary_c

[Hooligan_DCS]

About the floppy support mentioned here. I too think it's one of those "features" I will never miss. Everything can be transferred using usb memory, zip-disk, network or a cd.

As for the mention about MOS being in beta-stage. Yes it is. One thing I hope will unite OS4 and MOS though, here is a cut from Magnetic's Pegasos/MOS review:

>"It took some tweaking to get some the programs I have installed but once I did it seemed even MORE stable than my real Amiga"

I couldn't agree more. Pegasos/MOS is far more stable than my real Amiga(s), as unbelievable as it may sound. Hope to see such behaviour on A1/OS4 compo aswell.
As in the end, there is so much good software written for 68k or classic ppc that I couldn't live without with.

[huronking]

nahhh... I really dont need one, and I'm really not that venemous towards AInc... the mood just hit me and I vented. I'm feeling better now, so I hope I didnt piss EVERYBODY off.

Where is the xanax when you need it?

[Psy]

About the floppy support mentioned here. I too think it's one of those "features" I will never miss. Everything can be transferred using usb memory, zip-disk, network or a cd.

Not really I do run into PCs with no USB ports and no Zip-disk just a floppy drive and a CD drive.

To copy a few K (I mostly use 720K Disketts since they all I need to move small bits of data) it is a waste for CDs thus floppy is the only logical way to send data to older PCs.

[Targhan]

I wrote the zip review thing, and I really think the issue was with what Poseidon is trying to do. The zipdisk falls under the catagory of "Mass Storage Device," which has some default settings geared towards reading PC formatted hardware.  

I'm sure it could be changed, but when those settings are changed, it is universal (AFAIK).  This is for the Mass Storage Device in Poseidon, and would likely hold true for real os3.x Amigas as well.  I don't think it is a bug in Posiedon either, but a choice that had to be made.  To my understanding regular (IDE or SCSI) zip drives should work on a Pegasos with MorphOS as they would under a native Amiga.

[NicoPPC]

the Pegasos's Openfirmware is able to handle Amiga RDB. I boot with that feature everyday.

MorphOS rocks !
Bye

[Hooligan_DCS]

@Psy
Yes of course you're right. I don't have USB's in three of my work computers either. Majority do though. And all my computers at home has usb, except for Amiga. I don't say the floppy support is useless, but at the moment there are lot more important things than that.

As for wasting cd's, why not make multisessions? Should save you a few dimes... not that it's not an issue, a cd-r costs around 0.60€

[Jupp3]

About MorphOS being beta, this is how I see it.

There's MorphOS beta out there, namely version 1.4.

Version 1.3 however, is "final" 1.3 release, wouldn't call it beta.

And when 1.4 will be released to all users, there will be 1.5 beta etc

This is how software development works in most cases, and if you ask
me, that's how it should be.

There's alwaysstabile release, and potentially unstabile beta release.

In MorphOS's case, that beta just isn't available foe everyone.

[Madgun68]

@Targhan

I'm sure it could be changed, but when those settings are changed, it is universal (AFAIK). This is for the Mass Storage Device in Poseidon, and would likely hold true for real os3.x Amigas as well. I don't think it is a bug in Posiedon either, but a choice that had to be made. To my understanding regular (IDE or SCSI) zip drives should work on a Pegasos with MorphOS as they would under a native Amiga.

I think you should be able to configure the device seperately and those settings are only for that device. In other words, configuring the class is universal while configuring the device is not.

(Haven't tried it as the two devices I use need to be accessed on both my PC and Peg.)

[ksk]

my 0.2:

AmigaOS4.0 does not exist for end users.
MorphOS1.3 exists for "advanced users".

AmigaOS3.9 is the most complete existing Amiga(like) OS release.

AOS3.9 vs MOS1.3:
AOS is more complete while MOS is a lot faster because it is in native PPC code. And MOS have some unigue extra features when compared to AOS3.9.


If PPC native AOS4 will contain all AOS3.9 bits and pieces + something new when it's released, it should be a winner.... IF it is released soon... U C MOS is not standing still.

[DaveP]

MOS exists for those willing to accept the product in beta state.

1.4 should be interesting.

[Psy]

@Psy
Yes of course you're right. I don't have USB's in three of my work computers either. Majority do though. And all my computers at home has usb, except for Amiga. I don't say the floppy support is useless, but at the moment there are lot more important things than that.

Yhea I agree there are more important things in MorphOS to do but floppy is still the standard for small data transfer (even though devlopment stoped like Sega's 3 inch (yes 3 inch half a inch smaller) drive in the 80's and the 2.88 MB)

Yes catwealse fixes the problem and adds Amiga floppy support.  Yet I've stoped using Amiga disketts besides the ones I  for Classic hardware as Amiga disketts don't exactly work on PCs or Macs making Amiga disketts uselss for transfer except to other Amigas.

As for wasting cd's, why not make multisessions? Should save you a few dimes... not that it's not an issue, a cd-r costs around 0.60€

I just find it a waste to load up a burning program for less then a meg.   Yes CDs are cheap but Disketts are still cheaper, I can get 720K disketts for FREE so hard to beat.

[KennyR]

Indeed floppy is far the best and most perfect solution for transfer,
I am so ********* *** ***** tired of swapping harddrives and burning
cds and even emailing myself every time i need any tiny little file,
that floppy support should be there ASAP.

Oh come on, what do you transfer, text files? Of all the MOS owners I know, absolutely none of them is interested in floppy support. To transfer big files you'd need to archive and span, which is even more trouble than burning a CD.

At 1.44MB a disk at 21KB/S (crunch crunch), we view pretty much view the floppy disk the same as the audio tape - dead, dead, DEAD. We simply do not want the MOS developers to waste their time on it when MOS needs so many real things.