morphos vs amiga os4

[downix]

@huronking

If you really need a t-shirt that badly, would an XL do?  I think I've got one or two left here.

(I'm sitting here picturing huronking sitting there freezing in a boat somewhere in lake huron, going "Damnit, I need that T-shirt!")

[Psy]

Look all I'm saying is that MorphOS is in a beta like state right now and hopefully 1.4 will solve most if not all the problems with 1.3 like floppy support.

[KennyR]

Floppy support is the least important thing right now. Floppies are dead. MOS will probably never support them - the catweasel is there for them and does the job *much* better anyway.

[JoannaK]

downix wrote:

b) MorphOS is currently in public beta

Beta implies pre-version 1.0

MorphOS is in version 1.3.

Anything else?

Have to disagree with you here.. Beta status is not defined by some semirandom version number, it's about product readiness.  

But in case of complex system (like OS + tools) it's difficult to define.. I'd say partially yes and prtially no, but I'll think it's better to stick what Genesi consideres accurate.

[Psy]

MOS will probably never support them - the catweasel is there for them and does the job *much* better anyway.

Great so people that buy the Pegasos will have a place to plug in their floppy on the mother board but to get it to work with MorphOS you got to buy catweasle.

If that is the case I hope USB floppy drives would be a work around.

[JoannaK]

Psy wrote:

MOS will probably never support them - the catweasel is there for them and does the job *much* better anyway.

Great so people that buy the Pegasos will have a place to plug in their floppy on the mother board but to get it to work with MorphOS you got to buy catweasle.

If that is the case I hope USB floppy drives would be a work around.

Well.. those Usb-drives don't work on Amiga disks either so most important point on having diskette drive is moot anyhow. It's much easier and faster to transfer data using network or USB-memory-module than floppies anyhow.

[Psy]

But floppies are still by far the cheapest solution for small data transfer.  If I want to say take my Resume since it can fit on a disk and a disk can easily fit in my pocket and a disk is dirt cheap I would put it on a disk and not bother with CDRW or USB-memory-modules since then if lets say I want to give the disk to someone I really don't care if they give it back to me or not while with a CDRW or USB-memory-module I would.

This is why some Mac users use USB floppy drives.

[iamaboringperson]

If that is the case I hope USB floppy drives would be a work around.

or a USB zip drive!  :-o



why floppy? why do people in the year 2003 care about wether their floppy disks will work or not?? :crazy:

[Psy]

why floppy? why do people in the year 2003 care about wether their floppy disks will work or not??

Becouse they are the cheapest media.  The floppy is so cheap I can use it once and throw it away and not care just pull out another freash one since the days of recycling disketts are over due to their cheapness.

No other medium (besides tape) is as cheap as disketts.

[iamaboringperson]

Psy

:lol:
you must have very small data if you think that ;-)


if you want to transfer hundreds of megs, what do you use, floppy disk? backup tape??

screw that for a joke.  per megabyte ZIP is much cheaper than floppy

The floppy is so cheap I can use it once and throw it away

writable CD's are a cheaper method of write-once-throwaway![tm]

[Psy]

Yes if it is is more then a few megs of course floppy is no longer a efficent option.  Yet if all you need to do is send say a PDF of less then a meg to someone outside the network it is simple matter of copying it to the floppy putting a lable on it, move or take out the write protection tab then just find the person in question and finally fling it at them (or if you are more polite hand it to them).

[iamaboringperson]

id rather have a zip drive than FDD&zip...

[KennyR]

I haven't used a floppy disk on a PC for about five years. And that's what the floppy drive is on a Pegasos and A1 - a PC drive. With a maximum of 1.44MB, what exactly can you fit on it? I might want to read my Amiga disks now and again for emulator purposes, but the floppy controller on A1 and Pegasos is useless for that anyway. A catweasel would still be needed. All my data transfer these days is on CDRW or via the internet. Floppy disk is almost totally useless to me.

It comes down to this. Development time is precious. I'd rather see it spent on improving parts of MOS that are useful rather than bits nobody ever uses.

[Prod]

Indeed floppy is far the best and most perfect solution for transfer,
I am so ********* *** ***** tired of swapping harddrives and burning
cds and even emailing myself every time i need any tiny little file,
that floppy support should be there ASAP.

[Diezman]

I used to be very anti-MorphOS.  This is mainly due to being totally
unimpressed with the 0.3 beta for the CSPPC hardware.  My opinion has
changed of late now that the Pegasos is out.  I have been reading the
reviews and it really sounds like the Pegasos/MorphOS is a very good
system.  Not to mention that the screenshots that I have been seeing
look beautiful!

The MorphOS camp does have alot going for it currently.  The sofware
they give you are full versions.  They have been making big deals with
software developers.  They look like they are delivering on their
promises.  Most of all they have a PRODUCT that one can BUY.

I am still have concerns about MorphOS.  I wonder how long MorphOS
will stay close to the Amiga platform both in software compatibility
and in philosophy.  I not sure on how to refer to the platform.  Is
it Pegasos?  Is it MorphOS?  Is it Phoenix?  I'm still alittle angry
because when MorphOS came on the scene, everybody quit developing
WarpOS software so my PPC sofware library is not growing anymore.

I still consider myself an Amiga guy and I still await the day that I
can buy an AmigaOne with AmigaOS 4.0.  I hope it is soon because my
current hardware has a foot in the grave and I don't know how long it
can hold out.  However, Pegasos/MorphOS is looking better all the
time.

I do have a semi-related question about MorphOS.  Does it use the RDB
standard?  I only ask because I recently read a review about the USB
Zip drive on Pegasos/MorphOS and the author wrote about using
mountlists and formatting disks with FAT95.  It is certainly less
transparent than by current SCSI drive with RDB formatted disks.

--Aaron Diezman

[iamaboringperson]

honestly:  if i could save 50c not having the FDD connector on the MB, i would buy a pegasos or amigaone with out it  :-P