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And so it begins.
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Re: A cautionary warning note for anti Amiga, AROS & MorphOS trolls
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2010, 10:13:33 PM »
Quote from: kolla;586509
For my own account, turn amiga.org into amigaworld.net and I'm outta here.

In my view, amiga.org is one of the _very few_ international amiga sites where one is actually allowed to express ones views without constantly having the troll-screaming crybabies and insane moderation ruining everything - remove that I don't see the point in this site.


Agreed 100%

Some of us have very long memories about where that particular path led AW too.
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Re: A cautionary warning note for anti Amiga, AROS & MorphOS trolls
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2010, 10:17:08 PM »
Quote from: kolla;586514
The liberating thing with amiga.org is that here one has so far been allowed to call bullshit on these people, and let them know.


Not just liberating, damned funny to watch and participate in :D
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Re: A cautionary warning note for anti Amiga, AROS & MorphOS trolls
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2010, 10:42:28 PM »
Quote from: TheGoose;586522
So let's test our troll loving abilities and freedom of expression with my video reponse to the sysop remarks about things like "spew hate and negativity towards MorphOS, X-1000, AROS, Amiga, Etc this will no longer be tolerated.
": :hammer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfUxhH1tD9E&NR=1&feature=fvwp


Ahh liberty cap, how I missed you ;)
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Re: A cautionary warning note for anti Amiga, AROS & MorphOS trolls
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2010, 09:08:32 AM »
Quote from: runequester;586627
There's a difference between having a different opinion and being a dick about it.


Problem is that all too many folks are happy to leap up and down and whine like little children whenever they come across opinions that differ from their own.

If there was a problem then as orb85750 stated, it would have been far better for this to have been taken private with the individuals concerned rather than this.

Quote from: LoadWB;586633
All it does is serve to drive the thread into the ground, obfuscating the original content and intent.


Which to be blunt it absolutely deserves. As to the original intent, whatever that may have been it died the moment this thread was started. Piru and ferrellsl are bang on the money - all that has been achieved is a chilling effect.

This threat/thread serves no useful purpose. Speak directly to those involved.

Quote from: LoadWB;586633

If you have a burr up your butt that falls into the categories specified previously, blog about it or start your own anti-amiga.org and leave the rest of us alone.


Yes, how dare people have descenting opinion on this site! Burn the strangers!

Hmm, where have I read crap like that before? Wait don't tell me, it'll come to me...
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Re: A cautionary warning note for anti Amiga, AROS & MorphOS trolls
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2010, 10:49:57 AM »
Quote from: amigadave;586637
I find it interesting that some of the members that are complaining the loudest, are also the same members that are often seen disrupting threads with off topic, negative, thread derailing, crap postings that serve no useful purpose to the community, or this site.


And using the passive aggressive is absolutely not negative or liable to cause aggravation in any way, right?

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@Cammy,

+1


There's a shocker.

Two words: Project Natami.

;)

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@who ever said that many members here may be hesitant to post, or would post more often if they felt that there were less trolls that criticize posts for no better reason than to try to humiliate other posters, or create bad feelings where none should exist (or something to that effect), I totally agree.  


Because your first paragraph totally wasn't about trying to humiliate people into your way of thinking...

Quote from: amigadave;586637

or even enforcement of some new guidelines that are aimed at lessening the amount of negative comments  


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Re: A cautionary warning note for anti Amiga, AROS & MorphOS trolls
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2010, 11:36:26 AM »
Quote from: cha05e90;586651
Interesting personal interpretation.  


Accurate too. ;)

Quote from: cha05e90;586651

Yes. Especially if the price tag for this will be revealed.


I expect less than the X1000, possibly around the same price as the Sam 440.

The point about my linking to that thread however is, as much as I'm a total douche at times, I have trouble stomaching moral guidance from someone who less than a month ago lied to this forum about what was happening in the Natami project's management in an apparent attempt to torpedo it.

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Re: A cautionary warning note for anti Amiga, AROS & MorphOS trolls
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2010, 02:33:46 PM »
Quote from: Cammy;586682
if you'll look back through my entire history of posts on this and other Amiga forums you'll see that one post where I got a little too personal is the exception


I don't have to look back through your post history - I've seen your name crop up often enough with helpful suggestions on threads about software issues to know that.

Quote from: Cammy;586682

If you have a problem with me personally


I don't know you nearly well enough to have a problem with you. Tbh I think this is actually the first time I've ever spoken with you... I might be wrong.

Quote from: Cammy;586682
I don't think you'll succeed in turning my friends against me by persisting the way you are here.


You credit me with a plan of action that wouldn't in a million years occur to me.

Honestly, I'm not that smart, or devious. If you haven't guessed by my posting style, I'm not a particularly subtle creature. If I genuinely had a problem with you, I'd tell you straight up.

Machiavelli I ain't.

If you say that I've somehow misinterpreted what I read on that thread - fair enough. I'll go with that and I formally retract my previous comment.

As a side note: I've been in the same IRC chan as you for the past two hours. ;)
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Re: A cautionary warning note for anti Amiga, AROS & MorphOS trolls
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2010, 02:35:20 PM »
Quote from: Karlos;586688
Look, let's not lose sight of the main issue here. That being, you all have to do as I say.

/me runs away :D


Well, that's torn it

All hail the king!

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Re: A cautionary warning note for anti Amiga, AROS & MorphOS trolls
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2010, 02:39:16 PM »
Quote from: lsmart;586691
If it is done repeatedly ... why not delete the account? I don´t think trolls have a special right to post. A german news site has a particular useful feature: you can set ignore lists for people of whom you don´t want to read comments from. The rest of the forum remains visible. That´s peace of mind.


You do know that this place has an ignore feature, right?
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Re: A cautionary warning note for anti Amiga, AROS & MorphOS trolls
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2010, 02:46:23 PM »
Quote from: Karlos;586695
Was thinking more like this:



Respect me, respect the family...:lol:


:rofl:

So, you've found your next avatar then eh? ;)
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Re: A cautionary warning note for anti Amiga, AROS & MorphOS trolls
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2010, 05:42:01 PM »
Quote from: Tomas;586729

And it is no longer a real discussion anymore when the trolls here have driven away nearly every OS4.x user to other sites.


Say what?

That's some nice historical revisionism you have going there.

See the rest of us remember Mikey_C whining like a prissy bitch when Wayne refused to disallow MorphOS and AROS discussion on here. This in turn led to him taking the OS4 fanbois and other assorted ditto heads over to the newly created AW.net - the exodus.

Remind me again, how did that work out for you folks anyway?

Oh yes that's right, he aided in the commission of the single largest fraud this community has ever had perpetrated against it. Then he enacted yet another exodus to amigans.net when yet again those evil people with their own, non mikey approved viewpoints showed up and started asking some hard questions.
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Re: A cautionary warning note for anti Amiga, AROS & MorphOS trolls
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2010, 06:18:05 PM »
Quote from: Tomas;586739
What the heck are you talking about?? I clearly said i want equal discussions of all platform, just not mindless fud or trolling.


What you said was that the reason for the OS4 fanboys leaving was due to trolling.

This is patently untrue. That is all.

You'll note I didn't comment on the rest of your post. There is a good reason for that - there was nothing in it that warranted comment that hadn't already been brought up. Likewise with your response, beyond this bit, there isn't anything needing to be discussed.
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Re: A cautionary warning note for anti Amiga, AROS & MorphOS trolls
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2010, 06:40:15 PM »
Quote from: Tomas;586745
And there you go with name calling again.


And there you go trying to change the subject again. Damn it really must be chafing you to try to dodge again.

What makes you think given that it didn't work the first time, that it'd work this time?

Your claim regarding the reason the OS4 fanboys left is wrong and no amount of bawwwing about my use of the word fanboy is going to change that.

Quote from: Tomas;586745


Still doesn't make your claim any more accurate though.
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Re: A cautionary warning note for anti Amiga, AROS & MorphOS trolls
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2010, 07:35:30 PM »
Quote from: Tomas;586751
Okay.. Show me that i am wrong then.


I believe you have that backwards - show us where we're right.

You forget, just as you were here from the beginning, so too were we.

Quote from: Tomas;586751

Do you scream fanboys at people who use linux or windows as well? Why cant you respect that i choose OS4.x?


Scream? lulz.

Lets see, on occasion, depending on the situation, yes I'll call fanboy, regardless of the hardware or OS being evangelised. I don't care that you use OS4 any more than I care about Piru using MorphOS or runequester linux or arkhan use windows. So long as it works for you fantastic. I'm not however going to give you special consideration based on your choice of OS.

Quote from: Tomas;586751

I have been active on this forum for a decade now and been a reguluar guest visitior since beginning as well. I have seen the changes with my own eyes, i have seen people who have expressed those very same views as me and seen how the OS4 users have slowly shifted more towards sites like amigaworld.


As have I. And I watched whilst both the red and blue camp ripped each other to pieces during 03-04. I watched Mikey_C lead the exodus to AW when Wayne refused to silence the other side. The blues moved more toward Morphzone leaving this place to be a more or less neutral territory mainly catering for classic and AROS. With the worst offenders from both sides in their respective sites gone this place actually prospered.
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