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Let the "Amiga Spirit" rest in peace.
« on: June 10, 2004, 08:54:22 AM »
Undoubtedly there have been posts here decrying similar facts about the Amiga's significance in modern day computing and her fate.  In case it hasn't sunk in yet and I can save a few souls from depressingly idling on cloud 9 with respect to the platform, I humbly submit:

1. The Amiga, once the watermark of multimedia and Commodore's last hope for a piece of the desktop, no longer has a seat in the consumer marketplace.  The tinkerers have Linux, creative types MacOS X, and the suits Windows.  Forget about the enterprise/server/embedded/game markets, too.  AmigaOS will not bring with it distinguishing characteristics, features, or marketing muscle of any significance.    

2. The current miniscule AmigaOS market demand is fueled by overzealous "old timers", nostalgic for a brand and the emotion it invoked in earlier years, college lads, and borderline infantile internationals who yearn for the revival of their gaming machine.  I was once in camp #1, and I say this in humility.  Look at yourself in the mirror; study the posts on Amiga BBS's.  There's no demographic of value here; just relics and hacker brats.

3. Considering points 1 and 2, no large scale efforts backed with serious capital will be invested in this has-been operating system.  The Amiga is on a reverse snowball to the days of the Homebrew Computer Club, where a tiny and dedicated band of hobbyists fueled a microeconomic market dynamic for a machine the "insiders" know is the best thing on the block -- now, if only the "outsiders" would catch on.  The outsiders aren't paying attention and have no reason to.  Amiga lost.

Use your machines until the IC's blow.  Encase the carcass in a plastic display and walk high knowing you had a piece of computing history, one that helped define an industry although it was never in the cards for the platform to seize it.  

I know you deny all of the above and it may hurt.  Perhaps easiest would be not to admit defeat, but instead enjoy the rest of the ride together before the Amiga is finally allowed to rest in peace alongside her brothers and sisters.
 

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Re: Let the "Amiga Spirit" rest in peace.
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2004, 09:12:39 AM »
You're entitled to your oppinion just as I'm entitled to not share it.

Funny way of introducing yourself to the community though... do I smell something blue?

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Re: Let the "Amiga Spirit" rest in peace.
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2004, 09:19:27 AM »
Sniff...Sniff I smell a troll boy
BIG IRON (Or \\"heavy metal [Cambridge]) Large, expensive,ultra-fast computers. Used generally of number crunching supercomputers such as Crays, but can include more conventional big commercial IBMish mainframes.
 

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Re: Let the "Amiga Spirit" rest in peace.
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2004, 09:20:27 AM »
I disagree with you on the point of "let the spirit RIP"!
The Amiga could still become a serious machine in the future, not for a broad market presumably, but for those who like to tinker. I work within Windows, Linux and Amiga environments by now, and I still could give you hours of arguments why I like Amiga best. This is not due to personal likes or dislikes than rather hard technical facts. Read

http://www.monkeyhouse.eclipse.co.uk/amiga/zen.htm

and you get an idea of what is meant. Amiga was the first platform that got together ease of use with efficiency, with ease of ease of changing system related behaviour. This combination at high level is still unique and the reason, why I will stick to the Amiga spirit as long as possible...

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Re: Let the "Amiga Spirit" rest in peace.
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2004, 09:21:35 AM »
Typical neocon -- resorts to name calling instead of debating the facts.
 

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Re: Let the "Amiga Spirit" rest in peace.
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2004, 09:22:34 AM »
 Yup troll boy!!! wheres my prize?
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Re: Let the "Amiga Spirit" rest in peace.
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2004, 09:23:53 AM »
Years of battles in comp.sys.amiga.advocacy prove arguments from the tinkerers and techies won't convince the *market* that the Amiga is worth the silicon its built on!
 

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Re: Let the "Amiga Spirit" rest in peace.
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2004, 09:25:19 AM »
From BIG-IRON's profile:

>Interest: Amiga's, Athlon 64's, fast cars,boobies,computer
>games,boobies

I think that proves point #2, category #3.
 

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Re: Let the "Amiga Spirit" rest in peace.
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2004, 09:27:38 AM »
hey stop calling him names....
the man just said what he thinks. Is that too bad?
deep inside I believe we all realise that he's got some point, not that he is necesarily right, but his argument easily stand.
...and for God's sake, whoever you don't agree with, doesn't have to be a bluecamper (or a redcamper if we jump on the other side of the fence)...
The new Megadeth album rules!
 

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Re: Let the "Amiga Spirit" rest in peace.
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2004, 09:31:33 AM »
So when you walk into a room you introduce yourself with a fart and not a handshake? context and timing are everything.
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Re: Let the "Amiga Spirit" rest in peace.
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2004, 09:35:24 AM »
The market?!? Who cares about the phukking market?
Most of us are no brand fetishists, but really like the inner specs! Anything else does not count anymore.

If you want to go for the market, use whatever you want and
troll your way along...

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Re: Let the "Amiga Spirit" rest in peace.
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2004, 09:39:24 AM »
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Funny way of introducing yourself to the community though... do I smell something blue?
Oh puh-lease. Here's a dose of reality for you: There are people out there that don't share your point of view and have no interest in Morphos. Shocking, isn't it?
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Re: Let the "Amiga Spirit" rest in peace.
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2004, 10:02:52 AM »
First post failed.. Let's try again.

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Undoubtedly there have been posts here decrying similar facts about the Amiga's significance in modern day computing and her fate. In case it hasn't sunk in yet and I can save a few souls from depressingly idling on cloud 9 with respect to the platform, I humbly submit:
Funny you should mention cloud 9. Society has always had its dreamers. Many of them have accomplished great things. It's a good thing they didn't listen when people such as yourself, when they tried to convince them the only rational thing to do was give up.
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Re: Let the "Amiga Spirit" rest in peace.
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2004, 10:38:18 AM »
Ehm... blue might be the wrong word and troll being the right (tried to look it up in the dictionary but it referred them to color and fairytales).

Anyway I don't share the views and still find it kind of rude to clamp into the comunity like that. Ow well... that's just me.

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Re: Let the "Amiga Spirit" rest in peace.
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2004, 10:53:21 AM »
" So when you walk into a room you introduce yourself with a fart and not a handshake? context and timing are everything."

You have obviously never been to the U.K. then....... :-)


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