Will Amiga ever live again?

[drwho]

I have to agree with something Jettah said a few posts back, I think that the Amiga is more than the sum of its parts alone.

Like many folks, I started with the Amiga very early. I had owned many systems and also worked on larger systems professionally (PDP-8, PDP 11/23, VAX, Sun, SGI, etc), but none of them ever seemed to compare to the Amiga.

When people talk to me about the Amiga, they ask what it is that still drives me with the machine after all these years. I can't explain it to them. I don't know why tinkering with my StartupSequence is so much fun, I am not exactly sure what the attraction is to writing ARexx scripts for interprocess communications between my applications is. I don't exactly know why I get such satisfaction when I am goofing with C on the Amiga and I can make a new window that doesn't do anything. I am not sure why I think that it's important to mention to people that Datastorm is written in 100% assembly language. I am not sure why DPaint is still a great graphics application. I am happy that I know what blitter and copper means and that non-Amigans don't. It's unclear to me why, even though I think WinUAE is a wonderful emulator, I believe that nothing beats the experience of working on a real Amiga.

Maybe it's just that I don't want to be another regular guy, running Windows because it's what everyone else does or a Mac or Linux because it's the "next best thing".

Just my 2 cents,
Mike

[Noster]

Hi

@drwho

I hate these "me too" posts, but I have to say: "You brought it to the point."
I also use the Amiga since 1988 and still love to work with it even in this XXX Gigahertz-times, I doesn't really know why, perhaps because the system is so transparent. I know what it does, and there are no hidden undocumented features (not many).

And the "operating system" from the guys in Redmont ? Who knows what the system does ? It's so easy for the bad guys to corrupt the system, because noone really knows what it does and where he has to look for the according informations. I need to write applications for Wind#*&% to feed my family, but I hate it.

Linux ? A nice OS, very usable for a low-cost server, but also not very handy.

Noster

[BigBenAussie]

@drwho

I can't tell you how many people's eyes light up when I tell them that a new Amiga is coming out.

Of course not knowing its abysmal specs and high price tag helps.

People think, "Super Amiga, that's the ticket".

Its a pity Amiga couldn't have made a super chipset to out perform the consoles and 3d cards of today.

Hey, any possibility of creating a technology that works with multiple 3d Graphic cards? Keep adding them to go faster.

Of course the cost would be exorbitant but some people are willing to pay for the fastest game machine on the block and its easy to upgrade. I am assuming that apart from OS functionality the processor speed doesn't matter as much as the polygon count to a lot of people.

[AmiMan]

"The Amiga computer still lives and will continue to live on in the hearts of those that truely love and adore her.  To these people the Amiga computer will never die".  These words were spoken by the famous DoomMaster himself.  They are so true.

[Framiga]

by AmiMan on 2004/4/5 9:29:29

"The Amiga computer still lives and will continue to live on in the hearts of those that truely love and adore her. To these people the Amiga computer will never die". These words were spoken by the famous DoomMaster himself. They are so true.

wellcome back Doomy :-)

[restore2003]

@Doomy:

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

You have alot of imaginary friends, or?  :-)

[that_punk_guy]

Last time I mentioned (in passing) Amigas on a non-computing forum:

One guy said "Goatboy for president!!" (Goatboy's my nick over there.)

And one guy said "Wait a minute... you made a post... on an Amiga?!?!"

No-one else commented, take from that what you will. :-)

[ksk]

"Will Amiga ever live again"

It depends on the definition.

It never died in my eyes. It might be just a shadow of the previous glory, but it still is there/here.

[Will-i-am]

I'm working on making my 3- A4K machines talk to a couple recycled dual RISC Intergraph boxes, all loaded up with great 3D graphics capability. I see it as some kind of fun animation  creation. I wanna make full length movies where I used to just sketch things out. Once they're all talking and swapping files and rendering at high speed on those lovely Cyberstorm boards I'll have a Frankenmiga! (yay) Oh, BTW, my wife was addicted to Datastorm for several years until the disk stopped booting. Anybody got a good working copy I would be soo happy to give her one, 8-)

[sir_inferno]

commodore marketing (period)

they were {bleep}e

for instance

The Commodore SX-64, the first portable color computer in the world.  Released in the early '80s, these things were sold to business executives, but due to crappy marketing and bad business decisions, the SX-64's dissappeared before the general public had a chance to catch on.

History of the SX-64

Bob Hill said:

The sx64 flopped because of Commodore marketing.  The s in sx stands for single floppy drive.  When Commodore introduced the sx64, they announced the DX64.  The d in dx stood for Double floppy drives.  I myself thought that sx64 was good, but would wait for the DX64.  After 6 months to a 1 year later, Commodore dropped the sx64 due to poor sales.  If they would have sold the DX64,  it would have been a runaway success.  The demand was build up, but they canceled the sx64 altogether.  This is the kind of marketing that lead to a over one billion dollars in sales company to liquidation in less than three years when they had the most technically advanced computer on the market at that time.

[drwho]

You can find Datastorm on Back To The Roots. It is one of the ones that has been legally released to the public AFAIK. You ca grab the .adf file and use something like adf2dsk or some other tool to unpack it to floppy.

Datastorm is in the middle of the page here:
http://www.back2roots.org/Games/ADF-Games/D/

Have Fun!!!
Mike

[Argo]

TeeOneKay wrote:
[color=0000FF]I got my PegII today! :][/color][/b] [color=FF0000](Off topic.....or is it? )[/color][/b]

Yes, it is. In certian lights, might be considered trolling.

[Argo]

Commodore engineers should have been allowed to change over to off the shelf parts sooner. I heard it had been in the works. Just never saw the light of day.
AGA also could have been so much better than it was.

[downix]

More like the reverse, Commodore was engineering chipsets that could have been sold inside of PC's, not putting PC components inside of Amigas.  Look at Hombre sometime, would have wiped the floor with nVidia, ATI and 3Dfx's products christmas 1995, when it was to arrive.  As Hombre was to be on a PCI card, do you think Commodore wouldn't have sold the cards to PC vendors?

Remember, Commodore at that time was plotting on abandoning the classic OS for Windows NT.

[drwho]

downix wrote:

Remember, Commodore at that time was plotting on abandoning the classic OS for Windows NT.

This is a really good point. When you think about it, it's a good thing that Commodore went belly-up when it did. I am sure that none of us would have wanted to live in the radically changed, "post-intuition" world that could have come from the above mentioned event.

-Mike

[Cyberus]

Will-i-am wrote:
Oh, BTW, my wife was addicted to Datastorm for several years until the disk stopped booting. Anybody got a good working copy I would be soo happy to give her one, 8-)

:lol::lol::lol:

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