Theo de Raadt says Pegasos Bad

[KennyR]

Restore2003 wrote:
You may kick me for this, but i think the pegasos/Morphos has destroyed the the rest of the community that was left

You are wrong. If it wasn't Pegasos, it would be UAE or AROS or Amithlon or Linux or Windows or Mac. MorphOS isn't the cause of the destruction of the community, just a symptom. That's what happens when you don't supply the hardware or software people want, and that's why the possible OS4 userbase has now shrunk to a tiny size. Not Pegasos. If AInc had done their job properly no-one would even care about it.

That's what life is like. If you fart around and don't do what you're supposed to, someone else will. Tough luck.

[Hooligan_DCS]

>Theo de Raadt says Pegasos Bad

If he says so, it must be so.

[that_punk_guy]

Fire bad!

Tree pretty!

[Batman]

KennyR wrote:

 That's what happens when you don't supply the hardware or software people want, and that's why the possible OS4 userbase has now shrunk to a tiny size.

Are you sureeee?  :-D  :lol:  :-D

[itix]

OS4 had its momentum but it was two years ago. In the Meantime MorphOS saved lot of this community.

[KennyR]

No Batman, I'm not sure. I'm goddamn certain.

[JKD]

You're smarter than I am then 'coz I spent the last three days being wound up by this. :-(

Good on ya!

Steve

[Argo]

@Punk Guy
   Hmm, let me guess. Buffy Fan?

[Argo]

@Itix

  I don't agree. I think both sides/company alliances have done things to save the community. Though it's more of a side effect than by direct action.

[Floid]

Noticing the rebuttal, I have to raise two questions:

1.  Anyone remember a "hacker" documentary centered around [Draper | some actor claiming to be Draper | someone not associated with Draper at all and I'm remembering it entirely wrong because I only watched it because it was the only thing on one 4AM], riding around at a desk in the back of a pickup?  

2.  Speaking of conspiracy theories, what's with the annoying Slashdot coincidence?

[JKD]

I didn't see that so much as a rebuttal...more of a balancing up the other side of the story. Paul's account seemed fairly complete and open, actually the same as bbrv's has been - the acidic nature of the discussions so far is really related to the vitriol in Theo's post.

1. Read both sides of the story
2. Read between the lines
3. Repeat 1 and 2 again (ad nauseum)
4. ....
5. Conclusion

There's 3 sides to every story...

Steve  :-D

[Floid]

JKD wrote:
I didn't see that so much as a rebuttal...more of a balancing up the other side of the story.

Look up 'rebuttal' in a dictionary? :-)


Anyhow, respect to Theo (who's welcome to hate whatever hardware he wants on technical grounds), respect to Dale (who wants to get paid), even some small respect to BBRV for going on the goose-chase (though, er, um... er... yeah)...

I can't say I know anything about ShopIP, the CrunchBox, or Draper's perspective/personality.  It seems like a straightforward enough product, but then, Pegasos did, too.  So... apologies to the man and his coworkers if I'm getting this wrong, but if memory serves (and I'm not sure it does, see the above), I have to wonder if his is a group prone to shouting "logic bomb!" in crowded theaters.

["Logic bomb" is a nasty concept, especially in private... If one's for real, it's hard to prove to outside parties; if it's not for real, same goes.  It's also an indefinite enough term that, lacking any semantic track record on part of the claimant, it could mean anything between an unchecked buffer ("Ooh, sneaky 'logic bomb,' we wouldn't have noticed anything until you injected your shellcode!"), an Apple-grade f*ckup, or Elbox/Office Space click-to-explode functionality.  Theo seems to trust their side of things, which smells nice, but it's unclear if he trusts them for positive reasons or just for lack of negatives.]

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Edit:  Oh, and of course, if I'd bothered to look, Slashdot's "Logic Bomb" is a run-of-the-mill user.  Though that, in turn, doesn't rule it out as being anyone's pet term, which is what I'm trying to figure out.

[JKD]

Floid wrote:

JKD wrote:
I didn't see that so much as a rebuttal...more of a balancing up the other side of the story.

Look up 'rebuttal' in a dictionary? :-)

Yeah...you're right, not quite sure what word I was thinking of...probably one that doesn't exist! ;-)

Largely as a result of getting wound up by reading garbage posts in forums...keep telling myself it doesn't matter and keep taking the pills  :-D

Steve

[Darth_X]

Hooligan_DCS wrote:
>Theo de Raadt says Pegasos Bad

If he says so, it must be so.

Theo's garage band doing covers of George Thorogood?

http://www.lyricsdepot.com/george-thorogood-and-the-destroyers/bad-to-the-bone.html

On the day I was born
The nurses all gathered 'round
And they gazed in wide wonder
At the joy they had found
The head nurse spoke up
Said leave this one alone
She could tell right away
That I was bad to the bone
Bad to the bone, bad to the bone
B-b-b-b-bad, B-b-b-b-bad, B-b-b-b-bad, bad to the bone

I broke a thousand hearts
Before I met you
I'll break a thousand more baby
Before I am through
I wanna be yours pretty baby
Yours and yours alone
I'm here to tell you honey
That I'm bad to the bone
Bad to the bone
B-b-b-b-bad, B-b-b-b-bad, B-b-b-b-bad, bad to the bone

I'll make a rich woman beg
And I'll make a good woman steal
I'll make an old woman blush
And I'll make a young girl squeal
I wanna be yours pretty baby
Yours and yours alone
I'm here to tell ya honey
That I'm bad to the bone
B-b-b-b-bad, B-b-b-b-bad, B-b-b-b-bad, bad to the bone

And when I walk the streets
Kings and queens step aside
Every woman I meet
They all stay satisfied
I wanna tell ya pretty baby
What I see I make my own
I'm here to tell ya honey
That I'm bad to the bone, bad to the bone
B-b-b-b-bad, B-b-b-b-bad, B-b-b-b-bad, bad to the bone

 :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D