How quick are you? 6 Prometheus for $139 each on eBay.

[T_Bone]

Holy freaking crap.

Just when I'd swore I'd never spend anymore on the classic hardware you have to tempt me with this!

[Crusher]

120MB/s is the real speed, 133MB/s is only a theoretical speed perhaps?  :-)

I wonder... do I really need more than 120MB/s? I have managed everything with 12MB/s in years  :lol:

@redrumloa, you take our precious cards from Europe to the States and tease with these prices... not fair... not fair  at all  :-D

[adolescent]

The 133 MB/s (actually, 132 MB/s) is the theoretical maximum burst speed for a 33MHz PCI bus.  Remember, this is between cards on the PCI bus, and has nothing to do with DMA.  Also, actual throughput is always much lower.

FWIW, the Zorro III bus has a theoretical maximum burst speed of 150 MB/s according to Dave Haynie.  

[redrumloa]

T_Bone wrote:
Holy freaking crap.

Just when I'd swore I'd never spend anymore on the classic hardware you have to tempt me with this!

3 down 3 to go at this price. Better hurry:-P

[dammy]

by adolescent on 2004/3/14 12:54:19

FWIW, the Zorro III bus has a theoretical maximum burst speed of 150 MB/s according to Dave Haynie

FWIR, Haynie said some where around 30 MB/s burst, 25 MB/s (it's only 16 bit bus, correct?) substained.  Zorro IV was going to be around 150 but he dumped the Zorro IV project for PCI when industry adopted PCI as a standard.  Gotta get thenostromo's search engine fixed, it's in it's db somewhere from TeamONE ML.

Dammy

[redrumloa]

adolescent wrote:
Well, I agree.  If there are no sound card drivers, or working fast ethernet drivers then it should not be mentioned on the "new owners" website.

I am in contact with various driver developers, one of which has a fully finctional FM801 driver and partial working RTL8139 driver. I wouldn't put too much faith in attacks from a competitor who still markets the SharkPPC. Enough said.

Mark my words if I find any mysterious fatal hardware bugs that prevent busmatering I will be the first one to go public.

[Kronos]

dammy wrote:
FWIR, Haynie said some where around 30 MB/s burst, 25 MB/s (it's only 16 bit bus, correct?) substained.  

Nope, Z3 is 32bit ....... but (you hate it when I say "but" don't you ?)

There are not enough pins free for 32bit address and 32bit data,
so they had to come up with a multiplexed design, where one would
1st transmit the address, and than the data, which offcourse only
makes sense when you plan to read/write more than 4byte continuesly ...

Thats why Z3 is so hard to implement, and used by so few cards.

[billchase]

I just bought mine!  Two left.  Despite some of the current drawbacks, the price
was the deciding factor.  I have waited this long for a PCI board, I can wait a little
while longer for some more drivers.  As long as a SBLive driver comes out soon,
I will be happy.

C Snyder

[adolescent]

dammy wrote:
by adolescent on 2004/3/14 12:54:19

FWIW, the Zorro III bus has a theoretical maximum burst speed of 150 MB/s according to Dave Haynie

FWIR, Haynie said some where around 30 MB/s burst, 25 MB/s (it's only 16 bit bus, correct?) substained.  Zorro IV was going to be around 150 but he dumped the Zorro IV project for PCI when industry adopted PCI as a standard.  Gotta get thenostromo's search engine fixed, it's in it's db somewhere from TeamONE ML.

Dammy

It's 32 bit, and my info is directly from a Dave Haynie post.  Note the "theoretical".  The actual speed is something like 30 MB/s for burst, and 20 MB/s for random with an A3000 bus controller.  So, to reach the theoretical 150 MB/s you'd need a much faster bus controller.  

[adolescent]

redrumloa wrote:

I am in contact with various driver developers, one of which has a fully finctional FM801 driver and partial working RTL8139 driver. I wouldn't put too much faith in attacks from a competitor who still markets the SharkPPC. Enough said.

Mark my words if I find any mysterious fatal hardware bugs that prevent busmatering I will be the first one to go public.

Well, in development does not mean available.  Right now your website says you can use them, which is false advertising.  I'm not basing my information on any "attacks", only what it says on your website. And, IMO, there is no difference between your vapor, and Elbox's.  "Enough said".

[billchase]

If the FM801 driver is fully functional, then the website
states correctly.  I see your argument, but I think this
in reading too much in between the lines.  The bottom of
the page clearly states what is available and working.
Again the sound card issue is a gray area, but I don't
feel it is worth getting bent out of shape over.  At a
$140, I am not complaining.  I am sure the sound card
drivers will be available very soon.

C Snyder

[AltRN8]

Glad I got mine when I did.

Since I already had the ethernet card and Voodoo card sitting here this was a no brainer. As far as I am concerned the Soundcard drivers would be icing on the cake.

Thanks Redrumloa.

[redrumloa]

@billchase
@AltRN8


Thank you!

And then there was one... :-)

[redrumloa]

I am sure the sound card
drivers will be available very soon.

I am in contact with the OpenPCI author and he says the only thing that has needed completion is AHI recording support. He states this is only about an hour of work, but he has lacked the time over the last year. He agreed to let me distribute the driver after testing.

So... It looks very promising. I hope to bring positive news very soon.

BTW: There is actually still ONE LEFT at $139! :-o

[tjaoz]

@Wayne

I don't know what your history -- hence your personal problem -- is with Matay but be careful here. I don't personally care what your history (or problem) is with Matay, but I would much rather you take these type things to e-mail or PM, since your current accusations have zero to do with the actual thread (outside of the word Prometheus).
(...)
Matay's history in this case is FACTUALLY IRRELEVANT as he is out of the picture...

Could you please read my comment, to which you response?
In my comment I did NOT even use the word 'Matay'. You are the only one who used word 'Matay' in this thread--you used it NINE times.

In contrast to my comment your comment is FACTUALLY IRRELEVANT and has zero to do with the actual thread.

To enlighten you--my post was related to the Prometheus sales/information policy of ANACHRONISM INDUSTRIES.
I cited the text from the ANACHRONISM Prometheus page. You can read there that drivers for a good quality sound card are available at this website. This is simply UNTRUE. You can check it yourself.

BTW. You can read more about the near-ready-to-release-since-three-years sound drivers for Prometheus at the Prometheus Mailing List.

Consider this our second formal request. There will be no more.

Please stop attacking me. In my post I wrote only REAL things.
In this thread I cited the text from the Anachronism website and I asked why this untrue infomation is there.

Is showing the real features of Prometheus something that you would like to hide before the readers of Amiga.org?

[redrumloa]

@ELBOX

You can read there that drivers for a good quality sound card are available at this website.

You mean our under construction in progress website with cut and paste information? Not because of your bizzare fixation, but we have modified our website to remove the offending material. Anachronism Industries certainly would never mislead their customers with purley vapour claims such as SharkPPC accelerators.

[News] PPC board for the Mediator   Link
Posted on 13-Oct-2000

ELBOX COMPUTER
Krakow, 12 October 2000

ELBOX COMPUTER is proud to announce the breath-taking new product: the most powerful PowerPC accelerator for Amiga 1200, 3000 and 4000.

The first SharkPPC G3/G4 cards for developers will be available by end of November, with production planned to commence in January 2001.

Mariusz Wloczysiak
ELBOX COMPUTER, Press Department

BTW. You can read more about the near-ready-to-release-since-four-years SharkPPC for Mediator at HERE

This vapour product is still touted on Elbox's website here and here.

Is showing the real features of Mediator something that you would like to hide before the readers of Amiga.org tojaz?
 
:roflmao: