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Re: Is Vampyre not completely compatible?
« Reply #59 from previous page: November 07, 2017, 07:54:33 PM »
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@soviet

He got the help he needed. To install ApolloOS. flaviosr had an official copy of OS3.9 he just couldn't get the CD install working on a A500 + Vampire. SpeedD408 who offered the advice clarified that he too had an official OS3.9 copy so everything is fine. I doubt everyone on the Apollo-core forum is so honest. Maybe there should be a requirement to insert an original CD-ROM during the install process to dispel the reputation of ApolloOS as a pirate's dream?


I hope I have found the help I am needing now.
And yes, I have an original copy of OS3.1, OS3.5 and OS3.9 (also older OSes).
I have tested Apollo-OS to see my Vampire working (my fear was to have a bad card). Now I am waiting some new stuff from AmiKit and I hope I will be able to have a "bad girl Amiga"! :)
I have also other Amiga and I could have used a copy of their OS3.9 but Apollo-OS is pre configured for Vampire and the test have been much more easier.
I hope to have a DVD, two CF, an LS-120 (to be found), the SD and I hope also to add USB and Ethernet! :) A big project and, I have to be true, Apollo-OS solved many of my doubts! If I get some results I post them while I make steps...
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Re: Is Vampyre not completely compatible?
« Reply #60 on: November 07, 2017, 10:10:37 PM »
Quote from: flaviosr;832732
I hope I have found the help I am needing now.
And yes, I have an original copy of OS3.1, OS3.5 and OS3.9 (also older OSes).
I have tested Apollo-OS to see my Vampire working (my fear was to have a bad card). Now I am waiting some new stuff from AmiKit and I hope I will be able to have a "bad girl Amiga"! :)
I have also other Amiga and I could have used a copy of their OS3.9 but Apollo-OS is pre configured for Vampire and the test have been much more easier.
I hope to have a DVD, two CF, an LS-120 (to be found), the SD and I hope also to add USB and Ethernet! :) A big project and, I have to be true, Apollo-OS solved many of my doubts! If I get some results I post them while I make steps...

Try the sdnet thing need only the Ethernet module and a micro-sd extender is like 5 usd total. It take me some work to solder it but is much faster than the plip box and cheaper. Works fine using miami dx, but you need to upgrade to gold 2.5 if you still have gold 2.
 

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Re: Is Vampyre not completely compatible?
« Reply #61 on: November 08, 2017, 11:34:37 PM »
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Try the sdnet thing need only the Ethernet module and a micro-sd extender is like 5 usd total. It take me some work to solder it but is much faster than the plip box and cheaper. Works fine using miami dx, but you need to upgrade to gold 2.5 if you still have gold 2.

I keep seeing bits of info regarding using the microSD slot with Ethernet and WiFi, but is there an idiots guide to getting the adapter and setting it up? Complete with pointers or links on where to purchase, etc.?
 

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Re: Is Vampyre not completely compatible?
« Reply #62 on: November 09, 2017, 12:30:07 AM »
I'm not interested in writing a guide in how to set up a raspberry pi as wifi bridge, but I can suggest this for those who just want a small, cheap and functional  bridge:

https://mikrotik.com/product/RBmAPL-2nD

Any old AirPort access point from Apple will also do btw, and most from dlink as well, it's a rather standard feature.
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Re: Is Vampyre not completely compatible?
« Reply #63 on: November 09, 2017, 12:37:07 AM »
As for parts, I used these. It was back in May or so, hopefully still available.

http://s.aliexpress.com/rENrMbqa
http://s.aliexpress.com/Mf2QfaAN

The guide for building the adapter also suggests a resistor on one of the pins, but it seems most people ignore that.
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Re: Is Vampyre not completely compatible?
« Reply #64 on: November 09, 2017, 03:22:58 PM »
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I keep seeing bits of info regarding using the microSD slot with Ethernet and WiFi, but is there an idiots guide to getting the adapter and setting it up? Complete with pointers or links on where to purchase, etc.?


If you don't have gold 2.5 first update download here and update:
Download http://wiki.apollo-accelerators.com/#latest_drivers

Download sdnet package:
Inside the file is a txt that explains in detail how to build the adapter and get it working
http://www.apollo-accelerators.com/files/sdnet0.8.lha

Then you have this threads some extra info:
http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=5¬e=9430
http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=5¬e=6761

This is what i have purchased
https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-3V-Mini-ENC28J60-Ethernet-LAN-Network-Module-For-51-AVR-STM32-LPC-2014/171265871630?epid=1233312767&hash=item27e03dcf0e:g:1LQAAOxyf1dTHsrj

For my adapter used this removed the ribbon and soldered wires to it but if you are not experienced using the soldering iron go for the breakout board:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/TF-Male-To-MicroSD-Female-Card-Reader-Extension-Adapter-Cable-For-Phone-GPS-TV/282556109576?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=581720082432&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Breakout board you just need to solder a header and use DuPont wires to connect the Ethernet module i hear that this boards can be badly design and can be to fat so it can destroy your micro sd slot when insert it you have to check the one you purchase for defects:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-SD-Modul-Board-Shield-Breakout-for-Arduino/332000350622?epid=2244433972&hash=item4d4cc3519e:g:jgwAAOSwYIxYAPpO

When you finish building the module the driver includes a test program.
Then you need a tcp/ip stack on your amiga if your are not familiar its another can of worms.
 

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Re: Is Vampyre not completely compatible?
« Reply #65 on: November 09, 2017, 10:06:24 PM »
Excellent, thanks soviet and kolla!

Already running Gold Core 2.5 and am familiar with TCP/IP stacks, etc.   :)
 

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Re: Is Vampyre not completely compatible?
« Reply #66 on: November 15, 2017, 02:00:01 AM »
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I am quite blockhead. I have just bought a 4×EIDE'99 Buffered Interface.
Now my more than crazy idea is to use the primary IDE channel for TWO IDEtoCF (I have to find a way to put them on the back of the Amiga) and the secondary IDE channel for the CD-ROM and... now I have to find a slim LS120! :)
And a clockport interface for A500... but one step near the other!

@flaviosr or anyone else:  Did you get the 4xEIDE'99 working with the Vampire?
I asked in another thread:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=72877&highlight=EIDE%2799

got a couple responses
« Last Edit: November 15, 2017, 04:17:28 AM by Motormouth »
 

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Re: Is Vampyre not completely compatible?
« Reply #67 on: November 15, 2017, 05:34:44 PM »
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@flaviosr or anyone else:  Did you get the 4xEIDE'99 working with the Vampire?
I asked in another thread:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=72877&highlight=EIDE%2799

got a couple responses


I see from your thread that a guy have been able to use 4xIDE99 with an Amiga 2000.
I just ordered the card from Amikit and... they are terribly sloooooooowwww...
Order one week ago it has not yet been shipped.
As soon as I have it I give a feedback.
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Re: Is Vampyre not completely compatible?
« Reply #68 on: November 18, 2017, 03:56:11 AM »
Vampire is not very compatible no.  Lots of things break as their priority is writing new apps and tools and not legacy compatibility.  This is a problem going forward. Its too bad as its a cool and innovative project. But for some reason they leaders want to create some new OS for vampire.
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Re: Is Vampyre not completely compatible?
« Reply #69 on: November 18, 2017, 04:00:04 AM »
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Just download https://apolloos.weebly.com/ write it to CF and you are running.

Ignore the copyright police, they are running on the waambulance very busy enforcing the copyright of dead products that have expired copyrights.


Also you can run your installation inside winuae if you wish i have seen that amikitX will be available for the vampire shortly using a modified installer.


Ignore the "copyright police" yeah you idiot ignore the developers tons of hard work and many man hours.. sure just steal their work. You are a real hero
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Re: Is Vampyre not completely compatible?
« Reply #70 on: November 18, 2017, 07:45:10 AM »
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Ignore the "copyright police" yeah you idiot ignore the developers tons of hard work and many man hours.. sure just steal their work. You are a real hero



Yawn.
 

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Re: Is Vampyre not completely compatible?
« Reply #71 on: November 18, 2017, 10:22:33 AM »
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Vampire is not very compatible no.  Lots of things break as their priority is writing new apps and tools and not legacy compatibility.  This is a problem going forward. Its too bad as its a cool and innovative project. But for some reason they leaders want to create some new OS for vampire.


Why almost everything works on my vamp then ? i think it's very compatible backwards wise.
Also do not forget 68080 is a MUCH more modern/advanced beast then 68060.
All system/OS friendly software just works that's it.
I got my own hand build OS3.9 install (and yes i have a legal original copy of OS3.9) installed almost every hack/patch and add-on known to Amiga kind and it runs rock solid.

To put in another perspective the old PPC cards where not compatible, because you needed WarpOS and specially written software to make use of PPC.

With the FPU now shaping up, Vampire is gaining more compatibility again.
My point is that with going forward you will always loose some compatibility and must find workarounds to regain backwards compatibility, but in this case it's very very little, heck you dont even need the 68040.library anymore.
Until WHDload you could not play any or almost none of the old games for A500 on 040 and 060, to have WHDload tuned in for vamp will take time.
The only thing i cannot run ATM is AGA software because it's not implemented yet.

Sure when writing new apps that take full advantage of apollo-core features will not run on older 68K CPU's, but it makes software possible that would never run anywhere decent on 040 and 060 (like playing mpeg on 640x360@24 or 30 fps consistent) or run Netsurf usable.

And to put in further perspective probably there are now more active vampire users then 060 users, if not then it will be in the very near future.
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Re: Is Vampyre not completely compatible?
« Reply #72 on: December 03, 2017, 08:34:55 PM »
A small update.
I finally received my new 99xEIDE card.
I installed the "primary" CF on the primary IDE44 connector and a CD as master and a CF as slave on the secondary IDE40 connector.
At first I tried my old 99xEIDE drivers, simply since I had them in ADF and I could load them with the Gotek emulator... no results and I hanged the Amiga. :(
I then used the NEW driver and now the CD is working and I have been able to install OS3.9!!!
And the issues I had with files loaded from the floppy (real floppy) now seem disappeared.
It's only strange that the preference program do see the second CF but I cannot see it working! :(
And that I have some problems loading some OS3.9 programs...

More info to follow!
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Re: Is Vampyre not completely compatible?
« Reply #73 on: December 03, 2017, 09:43:56 PM »
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A small update.
I finally received my new 99xEIDE card.
I installed the "primary" CF on the primary IDE44 connector and a CD as master and a CF as slave on the secondary IDE40 connector.
At first I tried my old 99xEIDE drivers, simply since I had them in ADF and I could load them with the Gotek emulator... no results and I hanged the Amiga. :(
I then used the NEW driver and now the CD is working and I have been able to install OS3.9!!!
And the issues I had with files loaded from the floppy (real floppy) now seem disappeared.
It's only strange that the preference program do see the second CF but I cannot see it working! :(
And that I have some problems loading some OS3.9 programs...

More info to follow!


Thanks for the update!!!!
 

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Re: Is Vampyre not completely compatible?
« Reply #74 on: December 10, 2017, 08:31:10 PM »
Woooooo... finally I got it!!! In my previous tests I was not able to see the second CF on the second channel (as a secondary device of the CD-ROM).
So I decided to reinstall AmigaOS 3.1 from the scratch so also installing the newest EIDE'99 drivers (I previously installed the newer drivers over older ones).
And now everything seems to be the right way...
Now the difficult part... "rework" the case of the Amiga to fit everything!
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