Looks like we need more programers

[Kronos]

@mason

Thanks, but somehow I thought you would come up with something
a bit more hmmm innovative ?  ;-)


@DDJPPC
The setup for GG-MOS is even harder than GG-68k, and a working GG-68k
is strongly advised before you start installing it.

1st you will need to find a complete GG, which ain't easy as the main.-server
is down (any mirrors ?). Following the instructions should be possible.

Alternatives are the old GeekGadgets-CDs which also came with the AOS-
includes, or just buy the latest GoldED which has full GG-support.

I'm waiting to get my copy every day, so that I can get rid of the need for
an extra shell. GoldED is running next to perfect on the Peg, and eventhough
I don't have the JIT (only BT2 here) I did set syntax-highlighting to the
"over 1ghz"-setting without getting any slow-downs.

[asian1]

Hello
In my opinion, Amiga Inc / Hyperion / others should port GNU libraries, QT, Bristol, MKFS, Dynamite, other libraries and portability tools to AmigaOS / AmigaDE. Using the portability tools, it is easy to port several software to AmigaOS /DE.

Other thing is the device driver and book problems.
Device Driver: perhaps portable device driver such as project UDI will be helpful. Perhaps someone should write e-book about programming in Amiga OS/DE.

[Mason]

Kronos wrote:
Thanks, but somehow I thought you would come up with something a bit more hmmm innovative ?  ;-)

Not at this time  :shocked:

[Kronos]

A few extra words:

Missing files could be a result of wrong arguments to gcc.

You should normaly compile with something like:

g++ (or gcc) -noixemul -m68030 -m68881 -c

For every source and:

g++ -noixemul -lm -o myprog *.o

to link.

Atleast that worked for me  :-)

I had very little experience with GG before, but setting up a working
MOS-GG took only 4 days which were mainly waiting for the right advice
from the maillist  :-P

[walter]

Could the missing files be the result of bad or missing links
in the libs?  That could (possibly) happen in a bad install
or if you've copied your GCC setup.

It could be a header file or directory problem.  By default,
GCC looks for non-GCC includes in /usr/local (probably
GG:usr/local/ on your Amiga, but some of the documentation
says to put the Amiga header files in GG:os_include.  That
would cause a problem if you're calling AmigaOS routines.

Perhaps the original questioner can tell us which files are
reported missing (and what his compilation command line was)?

Hope this helps.

Walter

[Castellen]

Sorry this is a slightly OT, but has anyone ever had anything to do
with Motorola HC11 (embedded microprocessor) programming under
AmigaOS?

There's an assembly compiler on Aminet, but unfortunately it
translates certain assembly instructions into the wrong hex codes,
making it unusable
So I'm stuck using a MSDOS compiler under emulation.

Anyone been down this track too?

[cycloid]

ive been wanting to get into ami coding for ages and only just recently NEARLY got to grips with VBCC, the problem is that that isnt C++ compliant (but includes a lot of the "styles" such as // usage )

however i'm a budding games coder and i have a tiny version of MS devstudio on the pc and it's bloody nice, the editor isnt the best in the world but it does do syntax colouring, file browsing and, best of all... class browsing (all those C++ classes lined up with a tree that allows you to click on their member functions to get to them) ... its got a very usefull search tool , which takes you to entries when you click on them and the builder does the same with errors... click on "missing ; or something like that" and it takes you to the offending line in the offending file pronto! ... it has a debugger too that i still havent fully got to grips with but i can now get the debugger to at least name the class::function that the program went BANG in the middle of ... usually i forgot to NULL a pointer :-)

can i do all that with golded, vbcc and the shell? nope... but then i suppose you're all gonna tell me it's not REAL coding if you dont... bloody sado's the lot of you!!!!

(that last bit was british humour and not actually an insult)



cycloid

>Perhaps the original questioner can tell us which
>files are reported missing (and what his
>compilation command line was)?

wath i did was, download the GCC package "2.95.3" from aminet, and follow the readme file with have instructions on how to install it in Amiga computers,
i have compiled some progs, but even simple ones, get some erros about missing files and sintax, and i do the same in PCwinbox, and everthing is working, i have 25 progs compiled, many very little but not even one error, and this progs come from the tutorial i´m using to learn, so to me learn C without a working environment become a hard task :-), right now i can´t remenber wath files is missing, and i have my Amiga disassembled for some weeks  :-(, but at least i will get my Pegasos soon "i guess   ;-)".

[walter]

> ive been wanting to get into ami coding for ages and only just recently
> NEARLY got to grips with VBCC, the problem is that that isnt C++ compliant

I haven't used VBCC, but it advertizes itself as a C compiler only.  G++
in the GeekGadgets (ftp.geekgadgets.org is back up, or try
ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/source/geekgadgets) package seems to work OK.

There are probably no comprehensive class browsers, BUT Aminet has an
old file called "ctg.lha" (C++ tree generator) which might be worth a
look.  Don't know about GoldEd plugins or AmiIDE (Jens Langner).

[JoannaK]

Castellen wrote:
Sorry this is a slightly OT, but has anyone ever had anything to do
with Motorola HC11 (embedded microprocessor) programming under
AmigaOS?

Yes... But it was quite many years ago. I did some single board systems with Amiga. Had Amiga PCB design software and we did HC11 assy coding on Amigas. ... I can't remember exactly what compiler we used at that time (might have been our own as we did couple of those)  but I can ask around..

[odin]

@JoannaK:

Is there any neat PCB design s/w for the miggy a la Ultiboard? At school  we're using Ultiboard and I like it (well....apart from the fact that is crashes way too much  :-x ).

Anyway, I'm still a long way from doing any programming on the Amiga, still learning Object Pascal on the PeeCee.

okay...back to business

*opens Delphi book*

[JoannaK]

It's been at least 7 years ago, as the last Amiga system I used was A3000.  So I have no idea what there is nowdays with Amiga softwares.  :-(

[Castellen]

@JoannaK:
Please, I'd really appreciate it if you could find out more about the
HC11 compiler you used.
I had been trying HC11dev from Aminet, but it generates the wrong hex
code for the JSR command.  Probably other problems too, but that was
the first I noticed.

[Sidewinder]

@Anyone interested in Amiga programming

What kind of information do you need?  Tutorials?  Reference material?  Example code?  What is hindering your progress and what would you like to see as resources to help?

I'd be willing to write some tutorials or compiler some references, but I'd like to target a particular problem or problems so that my work is both helpful and useful.

[Castellen]

@Sidewinder:
Thanks for the friendly help!
One of these days I'm going to learn C, so than I can program anything
that has a C compiler for it.

So if you're offering, an easy beginners guide for someone who doesn't
know anything about C would be a good place to start

I'm pretty good with BASIC at the moment (who isn't?), and am
currently teaching myself HTML and HC11 assembly.


By the way, has anyone had any experience with setting up the Amiga
Apache webserver??

@Sidewinder

>What kind of information do you need?

I know this questions is not targed to me but, i will be very happy to see some samples of open windows in wb and full screen also wath is the files needed to do so, maybe some little progs working with MUI interface etc.  ;-)