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Offline mgericsTopic starter

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Convince me
« on: November 21, 2016, 02:56:06 PM »
I honestly haven't used my an Amiga or emulator for anything in several years. I do pine for the days of Amiga glory, but...

Anyways, convince me to continue using Winuae or break out that dusty A2000 and make it run, chuck it all in the waste...

I like listening to music, would love to dabble in at least a little animation, 2D or 3D, perhaps image manipulation ala PhotoShop (I do legally own ADPro) and some gaming (is Quake 2 available for my beloved Amiga ?)

This is a serious question, I would not be surprised to receive bashing from any sector.

Should I spend the time to learn to use what tools may be available, or go Linux, windows?

Would I use these skills professionally, to make money ? Not likely, but who can rule out the possibility.

Hmm...almost I think I have answered my question-if I want to do these things, any platform will require the correct software/hardware combo. Do I like (the Amiga) (any) platform enough to invest time and money into what would essentially be a hobby ?

Thoughts dear friends ?
 

Offline wawrzon

Re: Convince me
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2016, 03:34:09 PM »
i dont understand how do you expect others to answer these questions for you.. the situation differs from case to case, and details or irrationalities may play a major role. simply try it out, start with what you have, cautiously involving minimax. dont invest substantiallyin anything, you have not been convinced a necessity. ask around when it comes to details. but generally, who can tell if its fun or not? depends on a person..
 

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Re: Convince me
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2016, 03:38:47 PM »
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Anyways, convince me to continue using Winuae or break out that dusty A2000 and make it run, chuck it all in the waste...
We probably can't do that for you. You have to decide for yourself if you're still interested in the Amiga platform or not. Find something that's worthwhile to you, and if you can't, just quit.

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Re: Convince me
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2016, 05:07:44 PM »
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What drove me to interest in Amiga was the X1000 back in late 2009 early 2010.  Joined these forums and then purchased the X1000, along with many other Amigas.  This coming from being originally an Atarian that moved onto Mac in the 90s.  I had no heart in the Amiga world up to then.

Now zip to now and I have made some great new friends, friends I see at Amiwest almost every year.  I IRC with them and it keeps my interest in Amiga alive.  

I stay for the friends, not necessarily the Amiga alone, although Amiga NG is much fun.

I have since sold all my retro Amiga goods as I really was raised Atari and although it was fun to tinker, older Amiga was not for me.  I will stick with retro Atari for that need.

But Amiga NG is lively, fun, and new hardware and software continues to be made, although some slowly.  Thats OK though,,, it offers me an out for days I just need to zip away and chat with my Amiga friends about many things.

So it was the Amiga Friends I stay for.... and I enjoy Amiga NG for sure.  Somewhat brings back the thrill of the 1980s computing when I enjoyed it the most, although nothing really does that 100%.  But Amiga NG is close enough for me

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Re: Convince me
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2016, 05:24:06 PM »
Things that always draw me back:

  • Lemmings
  • Oh no! More lemmings!
  • Civilization
  • Elite II - Frontier
  • Cannon fodder
Granted, none of those requires an actual Amiga or require anything else but the default A500 UAE preset (allthough Frontier is more playable after some tweaking) and a few minutes to set up, but they're usually enough to bring back the old magic.
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Convince me
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2016, 05:26:27 PM »
Why does everyone always want to play Quake 2 on an Amiga?  I've seen that game, specifically, listed on more threads than I can count.  Yes, it can do it, but it will be a poor experience compared to playing it under emulation (or the native PC version, for that matter), and you'll have to shell out a lot of $$$ for a fast enough processor card.  IMHO Amiga does many, many things well, including games.  But Quake 2 is not one of them.  :laughing:

Edit:  FWIW - http://aminet.net/package/game/shoot/AmiQuake2
Or this one:  http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=205
« Last Edit: November 21, 2016, 05:37:43 PM by Oldsmobile_Mike »
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Offline BozzerBigD

Re: Convince me
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2016, 07:16:22 PM »
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I like listening to music, would love to dabble in at least a little  animation, 2D or 3D, perhaps image manipulation ala PhotoShop (I do  legally own ADPro) and some gaming (is Quake 2 available for my beloved  Amiga ?)

Get a new Prisma card and MP3/AAC playback is possible. Animation requires Deluxe Paint, photo manipulation needs Photogenics and I'd give up on Quake 2 and instead play, AlienBreed 3D, Genetic Species or ADoom depending on whether your priority is game play, graphics or a familiar cross platform game.
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Re: Convince me
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2016, 08:10:46 PM »
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... I'd give up on Quake 2...


Of course, a totally maxed out legacy Amiga could run Hyperion's port of Quake 2.
And that same port would run flawlessly on NG hardware (as would some newer titles).
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Re: Convince me
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2016, 08:13:18 PM »
It's about how much you enjoy using the Amiga and exploring other ways to utilize such a wonderful computer.  Far as Quake goes, it would require a graphics card and probably more memory for the 2000 to be able to run it at any acceptable framerate.  Maybe if you just don't want to let your Amiga love go you could invest a little in an AGA machine like an Amiga 1200 or 4000 to open a new door of advanced graphics and animation as well as speed from the 2k.  I have almost all models of the Amiga (missing an A600, and 2500) and find that each one brings a certain light to the collection.  Also go on Ebay and find some original games that you may enjoy like platformers and such.  You won't be posting to facebook on the Amiga but you definitely can find a ton of fun games. utilities, Hardware ect for each model of Amiga.  Good Luck and happy Amiga-ing!!!!
 

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Re: Convince me
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2016, 08:46:56 PM »
It's mostly about nostalgia for me, and it's fun to play with vintage hardware, takes me back to a simpler time. For my day to day work I use a modern Win7 PC but Amigas are fun. If it doesn't excite you anymore then sell the hardware to somebody else and let them enjoy it, I'm not going to try to convince you to keep it, either it interests you or it doesn't. There's nothing you can *do* on a vintage Amiga that you can't do on a modern commodity PC, that's not the point.

Yeah I don't get why anyone wants to play Quake on an Amiga either. The Amiga was already long in the tooth by the time Quake came out, an old Pentium II with a Voodoo card will give a far better Quake experience for a lot less money.
 

Offline Rob

Re: Convince me
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2016, 08:51:29 PM »
Quote from: mgerics;816653
I honestly haven't used my an Amiga or emulator for anything in several years. I do pine for the days of Amiga glory, but...

Anyways, convince me to continue using Winuae or break out that dusty A2000 and make it run, chuck it all in the waste...


I'd recommend downloading Amikit and seeing where it goes from there.

http://www.amikit.amiga.sk/info

It does require one the following to be able to install it but it comes

Amiga Forever Plus or Premium Edition 2005 or newer (also includes required Kickstart ROM)
Amiga Forever Online Edition 2005/2006/2008 (also includes required Kickstart ROM)  
AmigaOS 3.9 CD (both editions)  
AmigaOS 3.5 CD  
AmigaOS XL CD (Amithlon)

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Offline SACC-guy

Re: Convince me
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2016, 09:15:13 PM »
Quote from: mgerics;816653
I honestly haven't used my an Amiga or emulator for anything in several years. I do pine for the days of Amiga glory, but...

Anyways, convince me to continue using Winuae or break out that dusty A2000 and make it run, chuck it all in the waste...

I like listening to music, would love to dabble in at least a little animation, 2D or 3D, perhaps image manipulation ala PhotoShop (I do legally own ADPro) and some gaming (is Quake 2 available for my beloved Amiga ?)

This is a serious question, I would not be surprised to receive bashing from any sector.

Should I spend the time to learn to use what tools may be available, or go Linux, windows?

Would I use these skills professionally, to make money ? Not likely, but who can rule out the possibility.

Hmm...almost I think I have answered my question-if I want to do these things, any platform will require the correct software/hardware combo. Do I like (the Amiga) (any) platform enough to invest time and money into what would essentially be a hobby ?

Thoughts dear friends ?
One thing you MUST do is open up the 2000 and take out that damm battery!
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Convince me
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2016, 09:53:53 PM »
Quote from: Rob;816679
I'd recommend downloading Amikit and seeing where it goes from there.

Amikit makes your Amiga feel too "un-Amiga like".  I would never use it.  Just IMHO, plenty of other folks seem to like it.  ;)
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Re: Convince me
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2016, 02:25:32 AM »
Here's DOOM on my '020 14MHz A2000!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GidMvDThdU
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Convince me
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2016, 02:39:29 AM »
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Here's DOOM on my '020 14MHz A2000!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GidMvDThdU

ROFL!  I wish I could like this video two or three times. :lol:

Here it is on my A2000, it's playable at full-screen and smoother if I make it a bit smaller, but this is with I don't even want to think about how many $$$$'s of dollars worth of hardware expansion.  The things we do for our hobbies.  ;)
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