Convince me

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Here's DOOM on my '020 14MHz A2000!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GidMvDThdU

ROFL!  I wish I could like this video two or three times. :lol:

Here it is on my A2000, it's playable at full-screen and smoother if I make it a bit smaller, but this is with I don't even want to think about how many $$$$'s of dollars worth of hardware expansion.  The things we do for our hobbies.  

[ElPolloDiabl]

As a hobby computer there is none of that pressure to get software working. Get your Amiga 2000 working and pull it out every couple of weeks. It is no comparison to an emulator.

[fishy_fiz]

Yeah I don't get why anyone wants to play Quake on an Amiga either. The Amiga was already long in the tooth by the time Quake came out, an old Pentium II with a Voodoo card will give a far better Quake experience for a lot less money.

So will a Pentium1, heck even a faster 486.  

Really though I don't think it matters. Whatever people want to play it on is as valid as the next persons choice.

[David Wright]

As a hobby computer there is none of that pressure to get software working. Get your Amiga 2000 working and pull it out every couple of weeks. It is no comparison to an emulator.

Why no comparison?  If most people only saw the screen and tried the emulation and real hardware, I'll bet they couldn't tell the difference.

Well, maybe because emulation is faster and a lot of times better graphics.

Now I'm not saying there is no reason to have real hardware, I do, but be realistic. I regularly use an 030 Amiga 1200 and an Amibian raspberry pi.

[James1095]

So will a Pentium1, heck even a faster 486.  

Really though I don't think it matters. Whatever people want to play it on is as valid as the next persons choice.

I guess I did play it on a P-133, what really made the difference was the Voodoo 3D accelerator, I still remember being blown away the first time I played Quake with one of those.

Sure it's valid, it just seems a bit silly to spend loads of money to have an inferior experience with a game that was shoehorned onto the Amiga later on when there are so many great classic Amiga games that didn't make it to other platforms.

[Jose]

Well if you want something that can be recognizable and even used professionally you can learn C and try to do some applications. After that you can move to other platforms (and hopefully continue to support this one). Bear in mind that although coding for different OSes is different there plenty if not much that has similar concepts and the Amiga is actually more unforgiving of your mistakes so it's not that bad to learn on.

[paul1981]

Here's DOOM on my '020 14MHz A2000!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GidMvDThdU

That's using 16-bit Fast RAM, hence slower speed than expected. I think Doom requires 6 MB of RAM. Can you fit more Fast RAM to that 68020 card?

[paul1981]

So will a Pentium1, heck even a faster 486.  

Really though I don't think it matters. Whatever people want to play it on is as valid as the next persons choice.

This Voodoo III equipped A1200 with a 68060 @ 75 MHz does a pretty good job.

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To me though, Amiga was all about creating things. There's software to cater for every need, I never got bored. Modern computing is more about consumption than creation, so keep hold of your A2000 and cling on to that old mind set, where I found computing totally engrossing, if only an hour or two per week. Also, there's a chance that if you do sell your gear (or skip it) then you may regret that decision. There's a whole software library out there, and it can be enjoyed with any Amiga with a hard drive and a couple of megs of Fast RAM.

[scuzzb494]

I have way too many Amigas in truth to give any reasoned argument. I have modern machines and play online gaming too. But, I just couldn't be without my treasured Amigas. I just love sitting at the various machines and tinkering with all my files, programs, games etc. If only to fire up my arcade snooker game while I copy over some demo disks from a CD to play on the 500. I just find that once I sit down in my Amiga world everything seem wonderful and I am lost to it all. But then its always been like that. Quite magical.

[Dandy]

@ whabang - #5:

Things that always draw me back:

Lemmings
Oh no! More lemmings!
Civilization
Elite II - Frontier
Cannon fodder

Granted, none of those requires an actual Amiga ... but they're usually enough to bring back the old magic.
...

As wawrzon already wrote in #2:

Original by wawrzon:

...
but generally, who can tell if its fun or not? depends on a person..

In line with this, you stick with the Amiga because of games, while I stick with it because of all the productive software I have - e.g. DynaCadd, MaxxonCAD, Maxxon Cinema 4D, CNC Tool, NewIO, ...

[whabang]

@ whabang - #5:



As wawrzon already wrote in #2:



In line with this, you stick with the Amiga because of games, while I stick with it because of all the productive software I have - e.g. DynaCadd, MaxxonCAD, Maxxon Cinema 4D, CNC Tool, NewIO, ...

YAM for me. Best mail application ever made. Alas, switching back and forth between emulated AOS and Linux is too much of a hassle for me. Still, it's up to each and everyone.

[soviet]

Get a Vampire II and sure you can play quake 2 on a stock Amiga.

[Iggy]

Get a Vampire II and sure you can play quake 2 on a stock Amiga.

That combo would work, but I'd want an RTG card as well.
And yes, I know the Vampire has video out.

[kolla]

That combo would work, but I'd want an RTG card as well.
And yes, I know the Vampire has video out.

Why do you want an RTG card in addition to the RTG output that the Vampire provides?

[Dandy]

YAM for me. Best mail application ever made. Alas, switching back and forth between emulated AOS and Linux is too much of a hassle for me. Still, it's up to each and everyone.

Fully agreed!

[Jiffy]

Would I use these skills professionally, to make money ? Not likely, but who can rule out the possibility.

No. That is, there's always a small chance and there are exceptions to the rule, but in general, no, you will not suddenly gain any skills on an Amiga nowadays which are likely to make you any serious money in the future. Selling selfmade hardware projects to other geeks might be your only chance...

Hmm...almost I think I have answered my question-if I want to do these things, any platform will require the correct software/hardware combo. Do I like (the Amiga) (any) platform enough to invest time and money into what would essentially be a hobby ?

And that's entirely up to you!