Phase 5 Digital Products comeback?

[yssing]

Agreed. I can respect your interest without sharing it as well.

We should just be glad there is a potential overlap so that some advances can help us both.

That is absolutely true.

[skolman]

[CodePoet]

Well, isn't this getting interesting!

[ferrellsl]

I'm calling BS on this.  If this was real, then why take the time to white out any readable text and darken the image?  I've seen more believable images of Big Foot.  And these accelerators need to be stuffed into 1.5 meter long boxes?

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

I'm calling BS on this.  If this was real, then why take the time to white out any readable text and darken the image?  I've seen more believable images of Big Foot.  And these accelerators need to be stuffed into 1.5 meter long boxes?

Or you could, you know, just go on Facebook, where there's a lot more pictures and info.  :lol:  I dunno, maybe those are 2060's in the boxes?

Fingers crossed, we're getting a lot more info out of this company than we did other vapor products over the years!

[CodePoet]

I'm calling BS on this.  If this was real, then why take the time to white out any readable text and darken the image?  I've seen more believable images of Big Foot.  And these accelerators need to be stuffed into 1.5 meter long boxes?

The boxes appear to be for the connectors and not the accelerators; We've ordered DIN41612 connectors from DigiKey that came packaged in similar boxes

[ferrellsl]

The boxes appear to be for the connectors and not the accelerators; We've ordered DIN41612 connectors from DigiKey that came packaged in similar boxes

I live in AZ and have some beach-front property that I'll sell you too.

[CodePoet]

I live in AZ and have some beach-front property that I'll sell you too.

I'm unsure what you're trying to imply here, are you trying to say that if I believe they're connectors, you have a bridge to sell me?

The boxes are indeed for connectors, and what more, the pin pitch and style (based on the part number on the box) match those of the A1200 expansion slot. They're a part series that appear to be made by Adamtec

Here is a PDF datasheet for the part printed on the box (prefix guesssed): http://www.admatec.ch/download.php?file=kel/half_pitch_connectors_8800_series/8806_8807_8816_8817_series.pdf

Compare that to the high resolution dimensioned photo of the A1200 expansion slot on Kipper2k's site: http://kipper2k.com/a1200_expansion_slot.jpg

I haven't had a chance to compare them completely as I'm on break at work, but there may be something to this.

[ferrellsl]

I'm unsure what you're trying to imply here, are you trying to say that if I believe they're connectors, you have a bridge to sell me?

The boxes are indeed for connectors, and what more, the pin pitch and style (based on the part number on the box) match those of the A1200 expansion slot. They're a part series that appear to be made by Adamtec

Here is a PDF datasheet for the part printed on the box (prefix guesssed): http://www.admatec.ch/download.php?file=kel/half_pitch_connectors_8800_series/8806_8807_8816_8817_series.pdf

Compare that to the high resolution dimensioned photo of the A1200 expansion slot on Kipper2k's site: http://kipper2k.com/a1200_expansion_slot.jpg


I haven't had a chance to compare them completely as I'm on break at work, but there may be something to this.

AZ is a landlocked desert.  No oceans here, hence no beach-front properties either.

A picture of some accelerators from circa 1990 sitting in front of some cardboard boxes with the labels blanked out and some old schematics and pics from Kipper's site does not equal an available product.

So you want us to assume that this "new" Phase 5 somehow found a truckload of NOS 680x0 or PPC CPUs and is going to make a production run of new accelerators for a market of maybe 400 users at best?  Even if this is true, the final price will be absolutely ridiculously high.  And why bother when I can buy a Vampire for a reasonable price that will run circles around any stock 680x0 CPU and compete quite nicely with some PPC CPUs?  ACK Controls played this same game by announcing a PPC accelerator back around 2007 with their PowerVixxen.  Didn't happen then with a CPU that WAS in production, and it won't happen now with CPUs that have long been out of production unless Phase 5 bribes Jens out of his stash of CPUs.

http://www.amiga.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-46974.html

[yssing]

Why not just embrase it, we are used to seeing things not happening. But if you try to be positive, rather than negative, life in general will be a bit easier.
If it does not happen, then so be it, but at least we haven't lost anything.

[Heiroglyph]

The boxes appear to be for the connectors and not the accelerators; We've ordered DIN41612 connectors from DigiKey that came packaged in similar boxes

I'm pretty sure you're exactly right. it does say RoHS parts in the caption after all.

I can only assume that the darkening was trying to be a marketing tease and maybe an attempt to make the part numbers a bit less visible.

I understand trying to not get our hopes up, but the outright disdain some people have for this guy is amazing.

Let him prove himself or not.

[SnkBitten]

The images aren't darkened on Facebook.

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[Iggy]

The images aren't darkened on Facebook.

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Good one. The cards look old, but those boxes were just shipped.
So it is possible that they ordered the connectors.

[Heiroglyph]

I still haven't seen any indication that he's not for real.

I'm pretty excited to think I might be able to buy a brand new Cyberstorm with UW SCSI for my 4000 without taking out a second mortgage. Thinking that I could replace my Mediator with a GRex would be too amazing.

Hopefully he'll make enough money to do some updates to the design, but if not it would still be nice to have more units of the old design available.

I'm not even thinking of big updates like SATA, but maybe hardware that is more tolerant of overclocking, maybe includes a bit more and faster RAM directly on the board, faster PPC, etc. Just things that weren't available at the time but are now relatively cheap.

[psxphill]

So you want us to assume that this "new" Phase 5 somehow found a truckload of NOS 680x0 or PPC CPUs and is going to make a production run of new accelerators for a market of maybe 400 users at best?

I'm not assuming they have any 680x0 or ppc cpu's, they may be selling bare boards for all I know.

Or the videos of the component placement could be a smokescreen and they have an fpga/arm/atom board on the way.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

And why bother when I can buy a Vampire for a reasonable price that will run circles around any stock 680x0 CPU and compete quite nicely with some PPC CPUs?

As has already been mentioned 9837593475 times, there's no Vampire accelerators available for A1200's or A4000's, which is the target market for these new cards (plus the 2060's, which would be welcome considering how many A2000's still show up on ebay).