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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #29 from previous page: August 30, 2016, 04:18:14 PM »
Y'all need to just chill out with this.  If you haven't used it on a classic then go ahead and try it.  I have my 060 set to run at 66Mhz and it's still slow and nearly unusable with a Radeon 9200 with 256mb and another 256 on my big ram plus and the 128 on my CSPPC.  Its no threat.
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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2016, 04:23:55 PM »
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Its no threat.


It is, however, a source of confusion. No classic apps require it and it runs like cr** on classic systems, but people think they're doing themselves a favor by installing "the latest version" and then having all kind of problems. :(
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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2016, 06:19:51 PM »
I don't care what number the revision is as long as they keep coming and improving so thanks:hammer::pint:
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« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2016, 06:57:31 PM »
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It is, however, a source of confusion. No classic apps require it and it runs like cr** on classic systems, but people think they're doing themselves a favor by installing "the latest version" and then having all kind of problems. :(


It does say it needs a fast CPU and emulation is recommended over a real 68k Amiga.
 

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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2016, 08:07:45 PM »
Updated Amiga software? Nice.
 

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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2016, 08:25:47 PM »
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It does say it needs a fast CPU and emulation is recommended over a real 68k Amiga.


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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2016, 10:45:55 PM »
This should be good news, but it's the usual complaining....
And what does it boil down to? It boils down to whom ever bumped the version number up first.
Some times I do wonder why MOS users are even here, maybe it's the constant need to infest every AmigaOS4 thread. Please move along, nothing to see here.
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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #36 on: August 30, 2016, 10:51:12 PM »
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It does say it needs a fast CPU and emulation is recommended over a real 68k Amiga.

IMHO it's pointless to write Amiga software that doesn't run on a real Amiga.  Just my .02 cents.  :angry:

Maybe with a Vampire, though!  ;)
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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2016, 11:22:48 PM »
Maybe it'll make more sense on the Vampire hardware.  I remember when World Construction Set 2 was reviewed in CU Amiga and the reviewer complained that MUI was a resource hog because of the memory requirements.  That was when it was still uncommon to have more than 2MB due to the high price of RAM.

The point is that they're not pretending it isn't slow on lower end hardware.
 

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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2016, 10:14:41 AM »
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Some times I do wonder why MOS users are even here, maybe it's the constant need to infest every AmigaOS4 thread. Please move along, nothing to see here.


Well, you could try to see it from the other sides perspective and read what they are actually saying and maybe then you will see that there is reasons to be just a little bit annoyed.
 

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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #39 on: August 31, 2016, 12:16:03 PM »
I don't read MOS forums, I don't have a need to be there, but I am still, somehow almost spoonfed, with MOS "butthurt" feelings..
 

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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #40 on: August 31, 2016, 02:45:42 PM »
@thread

the conflict between the MUI for AOS developers and certain MOS enthusiasts is well-known and unfortunate, but it does not need to be stirred up every single time there is a thread about MUI. the situation is what it is, and the constant rehashing is annoying at best. if you feel the need to complain about MUI for AOS, please head over to morph.zone and do it there.  

going forward these threads on MUI for AOS will be more strictly moderated. i've been deluged with complaints on both sides, and it just isn't worth it. this is 2016, not 2004. enough already. further comments along these lines will be removed.  

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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #41 on: August 31, 2016, 03:41:15 PM »
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the conflict between the MUI for AOS developers and certain MOS enthusiasts is well-known and unfortunate, but it does not need to be stirred up every single time there is a thread about MUI.

Yes it does. As long as they violate other people's copyrights, it needs be brought up. At least in the world I live in.

Jens just confirmed in a German forum that he and Thore copied the Autodocs from the MorphOS releases and that they did not have a license to do so. He said lots of other things aswell, of course, which could be summarised as "you're all stupid" and "I had good reason to do what I did" - but the important part is that he's distributing stuff he shouldn't be distributing.
 

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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #42 on: August 31, 2016, 03:57:46 PM »
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I don't read MOS forums, I don't have a need to be there, but I am still, somehow almost spoonfed, with MOS "butthurt" feelings..



I'm not sure if this will be deleted.. however this does beg the question of legality.   There was once a legal contract for an older version of MUI.  However afaik there is no such contract for MUI5.   If there is no such contract one could say the MorphOS team is well within their rights to simply sue and have the distribution of MUI for AmigaOS stopped.
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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #44 on: August 31, 2016, 05:32:12 PM »
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its the same as if someone houtside hyperion has released amigaos5.
...expect that wasn't that exactly the original plan?

That Hyperion does AmigaOS 4.x, while Amiga inc. develops AmigaOS5+ inhouse?

I know, that's "highly unlikely", but doesn't change the fact, that was the original plan :)

As for MUI, I also question, why this is called 5.x, does it indeed have all the new functionality?