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Offline chris

Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2016, 11:51:54 PM »
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thats my question, if they really reimplement mui5 functionality, then even if i dont particlularly like mimicking it as a real thing (in contrary to arturs netsurf "fork" its not based on actually common open source called by that name) i could understand the motivation to catch up with the original.

Actually it's a fork of MUI 3.8, so it's exactly the same situation.
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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2016, 12:59:07 AM »
How so?
One is based on official sources and uses a loooong standing, albeit unpopular (sdl) backend, the other is an offshoot which is different to the original, but tries to deceive with naming conventions.
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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2016, 01:01:47 AM »
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Actually it's a fork of MUI 3.8, so it's exactly the same situation.


i beg to differ. if artur based his "fork" on some netsurf code revision from, lets say, the last century and tried to add the same (or maybe different, who knows) features, as some later intermediate version while bumping his version/revision number to catch up with the version of the genuine current netsurf release, then it would probably be the same situation. and i wonder if this would be tolerated without complaints by the netsurf development team.
 

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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2016, 01:09:14 AM »
@thread

please keep discussions related to netsurf to the appropriate threads. thanks.

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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2016, 01:31:40 AM »
How about removing Chris' post then too?
Its about as relevant as anything I wrote, possibly even less.
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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2016, 01:40:28 AM »
How about removing Chris' post then too?
Mine was contesting the parallel he draws. Exact same thing, yet his stays.
Whats up with that?
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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2016, 01:55:50 AM »
Actually its not the same at all. MUI has been forked, netsurf is based on official sources.
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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2016, 04:37:12 AM »
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Actually its not the same at all. MUI has been forked, netsurf is based on official sources.
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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2016, 05:08:24 AM »
Thanks Thore and Jens,  I'm looking forward to MUI6 ;)
 

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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2016, 06:58:14 AM »
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Actually it's a fork of MUI 3.8, so it's exactly the same situation.


Actually, it's based on an unauthorised 2006 4.0 beta version.
 

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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2016, 08:28:20 AM »
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Thanks Thore and Jens,  I'm looking forward to MUI6 ;)

You'll just need to wait until an effort is made to clarify the fact that MOS MUI is infact a different thing which is more advanced than AmigaOS MUI and autodocs are available. As things stand they cant piss all over other peoples work to the degree they seem to like.

Seriously what a joke. Absolutely no shred of ethics.
Time to completely abandon AmigaOS and join in trolling it (deservedly so too).

I actually feel for Hyperion when people from their own camp start working to undo any sense of interest people have in their hard work.

edit: sorry everyone, Im pretty grumpy at the moment. Shame to see a hobby Ive had since the mid 80's become such a farce.
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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2016, 12:33:03 PM »
If MorphOS developers felt they were being "peed on", they would react, I'm sure - I suspect they just find it hilarious how MorphOS can screw things up for OS4, by proxy of this MUI project.

Btw, if I remember correctly, though this project was a bout OWB in the start, it was also about AmiKit sponsoring it to use in their distribution.
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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2016, 12:47:28 PM »
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Imho they should be doing something more useful with their time, like selling keyfiles for all the people who would like to buy one but can't. :(


Selling keyfiles is up to Stefan Stuntz.  I thought you could still get them but might have to wait a while for him to send one and you don't get personalised keyfiles anymore.
 

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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2016, 01:36:12 PM »
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Selling keyfiles is up to Stefan Stuntz.  I thought you could still get them but might have to wait a while for him to send one and you don't get personalised keyfiles anymore.


Not possible anymore. He's off mountain biking the Himalayas now, or something like that. There's a blog of his somewhere that comes up every time this is mentioned, I can't be bothered to dig it up again. :(
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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2016, 02:03:34 PM »
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If MorphOS developers felt they were being "peed on", they would react, I'm sure

They did, repeatedly. In public.
 

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Re: MUI 5.0-2016R1 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released
« Reply #29 from previous page: August 30, 2016, 04:18:14 PM »
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