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Offline Thorham

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Re: Amiga 1200 rebuild, what should I do to this machine? WHDLoad?
« Reply #29 from previous page: June 15, 2016, 11:42:16 AM »
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Definitely going to stick with the standard 020 and RAM card I got with it for now.
Yes, don't let anyone talk you into buying expensive accelerators that you don't need for Whdload.

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Will probably go with Kickstart 3.1 for the heck of it.
I wouldn't bother. You get absolutely ZERO benefit from that for a Whdload system. There truly is no point.
 

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Re: Amiga 1200 rebuild, what should I do to this machine? WHDLoad?
« Reply #30 on: June 15, 2016, 12:28:57 PM »
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Yes, don't let anyone talk you into buying expensive accelerators that you don't need for Whdload.


I wouldn't bother. You get absolutely ZERO benefit from that for a Whdload system. There truly is no point.


Understood... just "feels" better have the latest Kickstart for only an additional $17 or so...
 

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Re: Amiga 1200 rebuild, what should I do to this machine? WHDLoad?
« Reply #31 on: June 15, 2016, 03:08:03 PM »
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Understood... just "feels" better have the latest Kickstart for only an additional $17 or so...


...best feeling ever ;)
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Re: Amiga 1200 rebuild, what should I do to this machine? WHDLoad?
« Reply #32 on: June 15, 2016, 03:11:25 PM »
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Understood... just "feels" better have the latest Kickstart for only an additional $17 or so...

...best feeling ever ;). I can't even explain it. When I switched to ROM 3.1 from ROM 3.0 my world completely changed. This new experience of having, new, latest ROM for my 20+ year old Amiga gave so much light into my life. I'm 100% relaxed when I don't think about mapping my ROM, that it is copied to FAST RAM during boot. No, this times are gone for ever and will never come back. All of this was possible, due to AmigaKit.com who sold me ROM 3.1 for my A1200 (with MANUAL!). Days of darkens and pain are gone. Get yourself new life, get ROM 3.1. You will not regret it, ever and you will not look back.
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Re: Amiga 1200 rebuild, what should I do to this machine? WHDLoad?
« Reply #33 on: June 15, 2016, 03:21:16 PM »
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...best feeling ever ;). I can't even explain it. When I switched to ROM 3.1 from ROM 3.0 my world completely changed. This new experience of having, new, latest ROM for my 20+ year old Amiga gave so much light into my life. I'm 100% relaxed when I don't think about mapping my ROM, that it is copied to FAST RAM during boot. No, this times are gone for ever and will never come back. All of this was possible, due to AmigaKit.com who sold me ROM 3.1 for my A1200 (with MANUAL!). Days of darkens and pain are gone. Get yourself new life, get ROM 3.1. You will not regret it, ever and you will not look back.


LOL!  I suspect a Vampire 1200 might feel better.  ;)

You're not making fun of me are you???

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Re: Amiga 1200 rebuild, what should I do to this machine? WHDLoad?
« Reply #34 on: June 15, 2016, 11:27:21 PM »
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...best feeling ever ;). I can't even explain it. When I switched to ROM 3.1 from ROM 3.0 my world completely changed... (snip)

Omg guys.  Funny, though.  ;)

See this link:  http://wiki.classicamiga.com/Kickstart_Roms_Explained

Scroll down to the heading "Why upgrade from Kickstart 3.0 to Kickstart 3.1?"

and this link:  http://www.gregdonner.org/workbench/wb_31.html

Read the review and the .lha-compressed text file list of changes linked to at the top.

Bug-fixes and new features, all in an easy-to-install pop-out ROM package, as well as compatibility with later versions of the OS like 3.9.  Well worth the princely sum of around $20 USD, at least for me.  ;)
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Re: Amiga 1200 rebuild, what should I do to this machine? WHDLoad?
« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2016, 02:24:10 AM »
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Still deciding on what upgrades to do.  Definitely going to stick with the standard 020 and RAM card I got with it for now.  Will probably go with Kickstart 3.1 for the heck of it.  I think I'd prefer an externally accessible CF card so I can easily move back and forth between the 1200 and WinUAE, but an internal DOM is tempting too.

I have the internal IDE-CF acting as a hard drive and also a PCMCIA-CF for getting stuff off PC. Total cost is like $20.
 

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Re: Amiga 1200 rebuild, what should I do to this machine? WHDLoad?
« Reply #36 on: June 16, 2016, 02:35:34 AM »
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Bug-fixes and new features, all in an easy-to-install pop-out ROM package, as well as compatibility with later versions of the OS like 3.9.  Well worth the princely sum of around $20 USD, at least for me.  ;)
Completely useless if all you want to do is run Whdload games. I'm not against 3.1, but for Whdload games only it's just not beneficial. It's not even about the cash. It's about having to install this, which means messing around with the mobo for no good reason at all. Just leave it be.

Don't recommend things that people don't need. I'm surprised no one has recommended a 68060 yet :lol:
 

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Re: Amiga 1200 rebuild, what should I do to this machine? WHDLoad?
« Reply #37 on: June 16, 2016, 02:56:40 AM »
I had to downgrade to the 030/40 on my A2000 cause my Tek060 passed died. Sure wish I still had it, Napalm ran great!
 

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Re: Amiga 1200 rebuild, what should I do to this machine? WHDLoad?
« Reply #38 on: June 16, 2016, 04:00:30 AM »
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Sure wish I still had it, Napalm ran great!
How does Napalm hold up against Starcraft?
 

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Re: Amiga 1200 rebuild, what should I do to this machine? WHDLoad?
« Reply #39 on: June 16, 2016, 04:07:52 AM »
Sorry, don't have Starcraft. Need to look that one up.

Chris
 

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Re: Amiga 1200 rebuild, what should I do to this machine? WHDLoad?
« Reply #40 on: June 16, 2016, 04:09:53 AM »
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It's about having to install this, which means messing around with the mobo for no good reason at all. Just leave it be.

If that was the case, why not just stay on 1.3?  Or 1.0, for that matter?  Heck, why even use computers at all when we could be banging rocks together for fun?  :laughing:
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Re: Amiga 1200 rebuild, what should I do to this machine? WHDLoad?
« Reply #41 on: June 16, 2016, 11:09:45 AM »
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Need to look that one up.
You should. One of the best RTS games ever produced, and it can still be  bought from Blizzard (don't confuse it with Starcraft 2).

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If that was the case, why not just stay on 1.3?  Or 1.0, for that matter?  Heck, why even use computers at all when we could be banging rocks together for fun?  :laughing:
Oh lord :rolleyes:

I would rather not mess around with the innards of my computer if it doesn't yield any benefits. Whats the point? It's like removing dust from a heat sink while there's no dust on it. It's completely pointless. Upgrading 3.0 to 3.1 for Whdload is equally pointless.

Sigh :o
 

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Re: Amiga 1200 rebuild, what should I do to this machine? WHDLoad?
« Reply #42 on: June 16, 2016, 04:56:46 PM »
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I would rather not mess around with the innards of my computer if it doesn't yield any benefits. Whats the point? It's like removing dust from a heat sink while there's no dust on it. It's completely pointless.
Sigh :o


In my case, though, the 1200 is completely disassembled already so the install is much easier.  :)

I ended up ordering from AmigaKit.

Kickstart 3.1:
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=62

Externally Accessible CF Card:
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1216

Still working on whitening the bottom portion of the cases and keys.  Should be done in the next couple of days.
 

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Re: Amiga 1200 rebuild, what should I do to this machine? WHDLoad?
« Reply #43 on: June 16, 2016, 08:46:14 PM »
I'm also going to work on my A1200 desktop, but Acill first need to replace cap in it. I will use with AmigaOS3.1+MagicWB, 4Mb Ram and 4GB CF card attached to 4xEIDE. Later I will get Indivision for it and will attach it to my 32" LCD monitor :) and show it to my friends... .

I also need to make it "white again"... it is quite yellow.
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Re: Amiga 1200 rebuild, what should I do to this machine? WHDLoad?
« Reply #44 on: June 17, 2016, 12:01:05 AM »
Sounds like a good plan, especially the part about sending it to Acill for a recap.  :)

You might want to take a look at the BetterWB pack, as well.  It's what I would use if I was running a lower-spec/non-3.9 Amiga:  http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/BetterWB.htm
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