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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2016, 03:05:33 AM »
Quote from: Acill;806202
After talking with you on the phone and discovering you have an A3640 in your A3000 you NEED to change the Xsurf-100 into ZII mode. The jumper is easy to spot on the board.

The RapidRoad has issues with an A3640. Here is the thread where it was discovered. I'm glad I was ale to get the Ethernet portion working for you at least over the phone!

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=75396&highlight=rapidroad


Thank you Acill. This is my first post from my A3000 using IBrowse, and yes, it directly downloaded IBrowse in my 3000.

Thank you all of you who have been helping me in my journey with a "real" Amiga.

Now, if someone can give a little bit of help in modifying the jumper(s). I have never touch jumpers in a computer board or card.
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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2016, 03:13:30 AM »
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Now, if someone can give a little bit of help in modifying the jumper(s). I have never touch jumpers in a computer board or card.

Just one jumper, clearly marked.  See the pic I added to my post right above yours.  ;)
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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2016, 03:19:53 AM »
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Just one jumper, clearly marked.  See the pic I added to my post right above yours.  ;)


Cool :roflmao:
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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2016, 05:21:12 PM »
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What buster version do you have?
Did you try the zorro2 jumper?
Are you going to use ad power via a 4 pin  cable?

What is that memory card below the xsurf?

In Poseidon prefs... Scroll down the messages as what is the newest?


Now I have the answers to your questions. This is what the previous owner wrote to me:
You got Buster 11 and the 7.1 Daughter Board. No need for jumper. That is a 2 MB 24 bit Fast RAM Board. You have the full 16 MB of 32 bit Fast RAM. (Zips). The 2 MB RAM board is not necessary. You may be able to overcome some issues you are having by taking it out as well and just sticking to the 16 MB Expansion Ram (32 Bit). I know you are working at it but remember I told you that I had to upgrade all chip revisions including the Daughter Board to get the A3640 to work properly. Your WD SCSI chips are upgraded revisions too. The chips on the A3640 are version 3.2. You're getting there it seems.

And UPDATE: As you all kn ow by now, thanks to Acill, I have Internet up and running. He also shared with me a link to a whole thread about Rapid Road used in A3000's and issues with the 3640. I read all 22 pages of it. So I 'm now aware that I have the same issue (also by reading the log in Trident).

So this is what I will do:
1. Add power to the RR
2. Change jumper to Z2 position

I'm not sure if I have another floppy power connection available inside, if not I will have to buy one, and also the ground cable.

I will report later.
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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2016, 05:21:56 PM »
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Nice one, guys! It's stuff like this that really makes me miss user groups. I'm sure if you locked all of us into a room together we could have figured this out about 20 comments ago, lol. :lol:


@Oldsmobile_Mike Do you have a larger picture of the jumper settings?
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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2016, 09:06:53 PM »
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@Oldsmobile_Mike Do you have a larger picture of the jumper settings?

Aaah, ya killing me now, man.  ;)  I just googled that picture, but seriously, there's only one jumper, just put it on.  :D

Here ya go, a bigger picture I found.  Granted, it's upside-down, but still.  ;)

http://www.kinhell.amibay.com/Kin/Pics/Amiga%20Sale/X-Surf100/X-Surf100-02.JPG
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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2016, 09:43:25 PM »
BTW, the power should be off when you do this

sigh...it's on the xsurf card right above the BIG 100 print!
It comes in the zorro3 mode (the jumper block is just on ONE pin)

Pull it off...and push it on both pins...now it's in the zorro2 mode
 

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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2016, 11:02:38 PM »
Thank you guys.

Believe it or not I have never dealt with jumpers before; all plug and play :)

I know that this may be is not relevant, but why is it that the LED icon in Trident showing the device status under Controller, is at times greyed out and some other times is green; under both circumstances it reads On Line, and it works. In fact this been posted from my A3000.

Just curious.
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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #37 on: March 23, 2016, 11:07:46 PM »
Mine is green all the time, not sure why yours does that. I have to assume it has something to do with the known issues the A3640 has. I'm also using a Radeon and sometimes a Voodoo 5 card to display 32 bit full color screen modes on a 27" monitor and not native A3000 modes through an Amber card like you are. It could be Mike and I are on RTG graphics and cn show more colors.
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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #38 on: March 23, 2016, 11:44:05 PM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;806203
Nice one, guys! It's stuff like this that really makes me miss user groups. I'm sure if you locked all of us into a room together we could have figured this out about 20 comments ago, lol. :lol:
Oscar is part of S.A.C.C.
He just prefers to use -ALL- the forums to solve his problems ASAP
He thinks it's faster, and NO driving. (he's not the only one... I get calls to solve issues alot)

You are right, it would have taken a lot less time, but I'm nor sure it's always better.
Chances are, we would have just set the jumper for him and he would still be hardware virgin. sigh
 

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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #39 on: March 23, 2016, 11:46:11 PM »
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Mine is green all the time, not sure why yours does that. I have to assume it has something to do with the known issues the A3640 has. I'm also using a Radeon and sometimes a Voodoo 5 card to display 32 bit full color screen modes on a 27" monitor and not native A3000 modes through an Amber card like you are. It could be Mike and I are on RTG graphics and cn show more colors.


I see what it is: Changing the ScreenMode to a lower res but 32 colors shows the light in green. I'm using NTSC Hire Res Laced but that only goes up to 16 colors.

Using PAL shows a picture a bit sharper (my monitor LG HD multi port) handles both PAL & NTSC, but still I can only use PAL High Res Laced to get a decent picture quality.

Is there any option that I could try? I don't remember how it is that one can populate the list of monitors available under SYS:Prefs/ScreenModes.

I know it's something between DEVS & Storage, but I can't remember.
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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #40 on: March 23, 2016, 11:46:57 PM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;806254
Aaah, ya killing me now, man.  ;)  I just googled that picture, but seriously, there's only one jumper, just put it on.  :D

Here ya go, a bigger picture I found.  Granted, it's upside-down, but still.  ;)

http://www.kinhell.amibay.com/Kin/Pics/Amiga%20Sale/X-Surf100/X-Surf100-02.JPG


Thanks a lot for your patience with me bro.
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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #41 on: March 23, 2016, 11:57:40 PM »
Open the Storage drawer, see the monitors drawer, open monitors drawer.
See all the options? Great.
Open the DEVS drawer, see monitors drawer...
Drag and drop the newer monitors options from the Storage/monitors drawer you want to the Devs/monitors drawer.

Open the Prefs drawer, open the screenmode icon. See more options?
You can test which work for you by just double clicking the icons in the Storage/monitors drawer and then testing in screenmode but to make the new monitor stay, you have to drag (or copy) it over.
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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #42 on: March 24, 2016, 12:15:17 AM »
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I see what it is: Changing the ScreenMode to a lower res but 32 colors shows the light in green. I'm using NTSC Hire Res Laced but that only goes up to 16 colors.

No graphics card?  You're going to be stuck with a maximum of 16 colors if you want to run your Workbench at 640x400 / 640x512.  No greens left in your palette?  Now is the time you want to research the FullPalette program and the Rebel palette.

I'll just leave this excellent blog entry here for you to read and study at your leisure:

http://www.mfilos.com/2012/01/guide-making-workbench-prettier-using.html

Also you're going to want the Peter K. icon library:  http://aminet.net/package/util/libs/IconLib_46.4

(more info on that, as well as later test versions, here:  http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=64079)


...now be prepared to spend the next 904857945687 hours customizing your Workbench.  I've been doing mine for over 25 years and it still ain't perfect, yet.  ;)
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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #43 on: March 24, 2016, 12:32:06 AM »
Thanks a lot for those links. Sounds quite interesting. I will read them in detail.

Man, I know...I need a gfx card, but my wife is going to ask me for either a new diamond ring or divorce before she lets me spend more money. Btwn the A3000, the X-Surf 100, RR, a new or NOS mouse, 2 x SCS2SD adapters, my wife is giving me the look :hammer:

But anyways, are there any gfx cards still available? Used preferably.

Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;806267
No graphics card?  You're going to be stuck with a maximum of 16 colors if you want to run your Workbench at 640x400 / 640x512.  No greens left in your palette?  Now is the time you want to research the FullPalette program and the Rebel palette.

I'll just leave this excellent blog entry here for you to read and study at your leasure:

http://www.mfilos.com/2012/01/guide-making-workbench-prettier-using.html

Also you're going to want the Peter K. icon library:  http://aminet.net/package/util/libs/IconLib_46.4

(more info on that, as well as later test versions, here:  http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=64079)


...now be prepared to spend the next 904857945687 hours customizing your Workbench.  I've been doing mine for over 25 years and it still ain't perfect, yet.  ;)
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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #44 from previous page: March 24, 2016, 02:09:48 AM »
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Thanks a lot for those links. Sounds quite interesting. I will read them in detail.

Man, I know...I need a gfx card, but my wife is going to ask me for either a new diamond ring or divorce before lets me spend more money. Btwn the A3000, the X-Surf 100, RR, a new or NOS mouse, 2 x SCS2SD adapters, my wife is giving me the look :hammer:

But anyways, are there any gfx cards still available? Used preferably.


Glad to see you got her going! Good work! You took her to the next level where I left off years ago. I got "the look" from my wife as well about spending money on the Sam. If you type in "Amiga One" in ebay and "Amiga Graphics Cards" you occasionally run into one, just watch the bidding - gets outta control sometimes.    :hammer:  
Glad it's working out for both of us. Cheers!!