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Offline kreciuTopic starter

Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« on: February 01, 2016, 10:09:04 PM »
I like to dream (a lot!) and I had this dream. It looks like this: Amiga 1200 Reborn (Individual Computers) + Vampire1200 (http://www.majsta.com/) + new Amiga1200 cases (http://www.a1200.net/).

...or Amiga 1200 Reborn (mATX version) + Mediator (Elbox) + Vampire 1200 + new A1200 mATX desktop...

Is this possible?

Then you just buy it... NEW. I think this would still be cheaper then AmigaPPC NG?
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Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2016, 01:01:56 AM »
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I like to dream (a lot!) and I had this dream. It looks like this: Amiga 1200 Reborn (Individual Computers) + Vampire1200 (http://www.majsta.com/) + new Amiga1200 cases (http://www.a1200.net/).

...or Amiga 1200 Reborn (mATX version) + Mediator (Elbox) + Vampire 1200 + new A1200 mATX desktop...

Is this possible?

Then you just buy it... NEW. I think this would still be cheaper then AmigaPPC NG?


Don't forget the sonnet crescendo 7200 in the Mediator :)
 

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Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2016, 01:19:19 AM »
One of the dealers may sell that when available.
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Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2016, 02:08:20 AM »
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Amiga 1200 Reborn (mATX version) + Mediator (Elbox) + Vampire 1200 + new A1200 mATX desktop...

Probably will be available before the Prisma Megamix.  :laughing:
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Offline kreciuTopic starter

Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2016, 02:28:14 AM »
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Don't forget the sonnet crescendo 7200 in the Mediator :)

You are right... and NEW PPC board, but I think this will never happend, to be able to by NEW Amiga + new "expansion" boards.

I wish that design of A1200 Reloaded would include ZorroII. In some way I hope we could have this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIVz4cmPoxQ but A1200 "guts".



I think I just woke up... but it would be nice and in some way it is "almost there", "tommorow", "next year", "5th quarter of the year".
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Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2016, 02:34:28 AM »
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Probably will be available before the Prisma Megamix.  :laughing:


Bet your right, lol!
 

Offline kreciuTopic starter

Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2016, 02:40:03 AM »
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Bet your right, lol!

...but totally serious, appearance of this kind of project shows one thing: You can solder you "new" Amiga "at home", kind off.

I truly believe there is many of skilled Amiga users who could do this, I can only buy it :( and complain about lack of it ;).

BTW. This could very nice DIY package for sale. PCB + all components (some could be soldered, so it is easier) to make new mobo based on A1200 "architecture", later you get DIY graphic card, even later DIY sound card.

I'm quite sure there is PLENTY of people who are dreaming about soldering their own computer they actually can use, it is VERY original. Look at Raspberry... Amiga would be "better" since you could make it completely from scratch. I think I'm dreaming again.

Ideas are CHEAP, it is more difficult to make them happen :).
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Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2016, 08:20:54 PM »
Slightly off topic, but I need to vent.

It confuses and annoys the **** out of me that the new Amiga Reloaded boards are going to be made to fit inside an A500 plastic case, and require the use of an Amiga keyboard.

I don't understand why the boards aren't being built in an ATX or mATX form factor, and have the native ability for for a PS2/USB Keyboard and mouse.  Add a mATX slim case and you have the modern equivalent to the Amiga 1000 form factor.

#1 The system will be properly ventilated to extend the life of those new yet aging chips.

#2 Not requiring an original A500 keyboard would be a HUGE bonus.  This requirement is short sighted and befuddling.  

#3 The system will have a proper place to mount an IBM floppy drive instead of dealing with mounting a floppy or a floppy drive emulator into a space not made for it.

#4 The external CF card slot could me made accessible in the front of the case with a 3.5" or 5.25" faceplate that could look like a modern PC flash card reader.

Some of the cost of the extras (PS2 KB/MOUSE ports) could be offset my not needing to bundle a laptop power supply.
 

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Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2016, 08:31:22 PM »
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Slightly off topic, but I need to vent.

It confuses and annoys the **** out of me that the new Amiga Reloaded boards are going to be made to fit inside an A500 plastic case, and require the use of an Amiga keyboard.

AFAIK they're going to be compatible with A1200 cases, too.  Hence the huge demand for new A1200 cases (the big Kickstarter project from last year), etc.  There's going to be another Kickstarter for keyboards, presumably after the cases ship.
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Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2016, 08:55:43 PM »
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Slightly off topic, but I need to vent.
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#2 Not requiring an original A500 keyboard would be a HUGE bonus.  This requirement is short sighted and befuddling.  
Replacing a dead A500 or A1200 motherboard in it's case with an Amiga Reloaded board it makes sense to use the (existing) Amiga keyboard since it fits the case.
 

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Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2016, 09:02:47 PM »
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Slightly off topic, but I need to vent.

It confuses and annoys the **** out of me that the new Amiga Reloaded boards are going to be made to fit inside an A500 plastic case, and require the use of an Amiga keyboard.

I don't understand why the boards aren't being built in an ATX or mATX form factor, and have the native ability for for a PS2/USB Keyboard and mouse.  Add a mATX slim case and you have the modern equivalent to the Amiga 1000 form factor.

#1 The system will be properly ventilated to extend the life of those new yet aging chips.

#2 Not requiring an original A500 keyboard would be a HUGE bonus.  This requirement is short sighted and befuddling.  

#3 The system will have a proper place to mount an IBM floppy drive instead of dealing with mounting a floppy or a floppy drive emulator into a space not made for it.

#4 The external CF card slot could me made accessible in the front of the case with a 3.5" or 5.25" faceplate that could look like a modern PC flash card reader.

Some of the cost of the extras (PS2 KB/MOUSE ports) could be offset my not needing to bundle a laptop power supply.


I agree with you, but some people prefer using the original case/form factor.

Why not go with something like a FPGA Arcade?
 

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Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2016, 10:03:59 PM »
I'd like some new FPGA hardware with PCI slots.
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Offline kreciuTopic starter

Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2016, 11:24:04 PM »
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Slightly off topic, but I need to vent.
I don't understand why the boards aren't being built in an ATX or mATX form factor, and have the native ability for for a PS2/USB Keyboard and mouse.  Add a mATX slim case and you have the modern equivalent to the Amiga 1000 form factor.

This is EXACTLY on topic.

Same thinking here. I really would enjoy mATX A1200 mobo (it could most likely fit original desktop case).

I understand that some people want to see "old case" for A1200, and think: "I have A1200 that runs Quake II". Whatever. A1200 will NEVER run Quake II because it is peace of crap (sorry!) by itself. Sure, if you add crapload of turbo cards, expansion it will...but it is hard to call this sandwich A1200.

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#2 Not requiring an original A500 keyboard would be a HUGE bonus.  This requirement is short sighted and befuddling.  

I also don't understand this idea.
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Offline kreciuTopic starter

Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2016, 11:27:25 PM »
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I'd like some new FPGA hardware with PCI slots.

... that will be useless without drivers :(.

I have to say that total randomness of various hardware efforts is killing Amiga. If people would actually concentrate they effort on ONE project and make it viable that would benefit people MUCH more then 6(?) versions of AmigaOS4.1 for each motherboard.

We need unification of projects, ideas... but as usual I'm dreaming.
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Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2016, 11:50:12 PM »
With the current direction of the FPGA, its just a massive speedboost of the classic line, not a diversion into a new branch. Id call it a revitalization. Some will stay with the original 680x0 chips, but both versions will retain WB 3.x.

Im sure Ill try the performance hungry version of AROS for eye candy too. One SD for WB and one for AROS? ;)