Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Author Topic: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...  (Read 7695 times)

Description:

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Niding

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2004
  • Posts: 566
    • Show only replies by Niding
Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2016, 11:50:12 PM »
With the current direction of the FPGA, its just a massive speedboost of the classic line, not a diversion into a new branch. Id call it a revitalization. Some will stay with the original 680x0 chips, but both versions will retain WB 3.x.

Im sure Ill try the performance hungry version of AROS for eye candy too. One SD for WB and one for AROS? ;)
 

Offline kreciuTopic starter

Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2016, 04:36:15 AM »
Quote from: Niding;803577
With the current direction of the FPGA, its just a massive speedboost of the classic line, not a diversion into a new branch. Id call it a revitalization. Some will stay with the original 680x0 chips, but both versions will retain WB 3.x.

Im sure Ill try the performance hungry version of AROS for eye candy too. One SD for WB and one for AROS? ;)


I don't mind some "fresh air" in Amiga world. FPGA will give some new life and more usability to old hardware.

In general A1200+FPGA accelerator with some sort of GPU acceleration that will allow watching WB in high resolutions and millions of colors would be AMAZING. It would be nice to have some Wifi (is this possible?) on it and basically at this point A1200 "desktop" become quite useful "retro" computer.
Re-A1200inE/BOX/3.2/AmigaOS3.2/TF1260@66Mhz/256Mb/MediatorTX/R9200SE/SpiderUSB/LAN/SB128/16Gb-CF/DVD-ROM/FDD-HD
 

Offline wawrzon

Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2016, 05:08:02 AM »
wouldnt that be cool, an old a500 brick, yellowed as hell, stuck keys, cigarrete ash in floppy drive and fast food stains all over the hull, but runs almost as fast as pentium 4?
 

Offline TjLaZer

Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2016, 06:43:53 AM »
No need for a PPC card for it, and I doubt it would work.  Can't wait to get one for my A500 too!  (on the waiting list for the A600)
Going Bananas over AMIGAs since 1987...

Looking for Fusion Fourty PNG ROMs V3.4?

:flame: :banana: :banana: :banana:
 

Offline Iggy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2009
  • Posts: 5348
    • Show only replies by Iggy
Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2016, 01:22:15 PM »
If Jens has enough information to design and build Amiga reloaded does that mean we have full (and accurate) schematics and details for the A1200 (to allow this)?

And if so, why are we waiting for Jens?
"Not making any hard and fast rules means that the moderators can use their good judgment in moderation, and we think the results speak for themselves." - Amiga.org, terms of service

"You, got to stem the evil tide, and keep it on the the inside" - Rogers Waters

"God was never on your side" - Lemmy

Amiga! "Our appeal has become more selective"
 

Offline IanP

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Join Date: Aug 2013
  • Posts: 133
    • Show only replies by IanP
Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2016, 04:38:00 PM »
Jens has bought up all the supplies of Amiga custom chips.

Interactive A1200 PCB http://www.amigapcb.org/
 

Offline Iggy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2009
  • Posts: 5348
    • Show only replies by Iggy
Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2016, 08:10:39 PM »
Quote from: IanP;803600
Jens has bought up all the supplies of Amiga custom chips.

Interactive A1200 PCB http://www.amigapcb.org/


Except for the chips WE own.
How many Amiga's were cannibalized for GB1000 boards?

"Jens...bought up all" - Hey, good argument for improved FPGA implementations.
After all, those chips could use improvement.

BTW - Thanks for the reference.
The key problem I have found with all CBM and Escom machines is that they still have issues that could use work.
"Not making any hard and fast rules means that the moderators can use their good judgment in moderation, and we think the results speak for themselves." - Amiga.org, terms of service

"You, got to stem the evil tide, and keep it on the the inside" - Rogers Waters

"God was never on your side" - Lemmy

Amiga! "Our appeal has become more selective"
 

Offline kreciuTopic starter

Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2016, 10:56:08 PM »
I see that some of you can know this:

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=70431

I need to find replacement parts...
Re-A1200inE/BOX/3.2/AmigaOS3.2/TF1260@66Mhz/256Mb/MediatorTX/R9200SE/SpiderUSB/LAN/SB128/16Gb-CF/DVD-ROM/FDD-HD
 

Offline arttu80

Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2016, 12:06:07 AM »
Hey, let's start kickstarter project to finance new company called Amiga Incorporated and then we manufacture NEW Amigas and all!  Bring 'em to new century and onto the public who's sick of Windows 10 update notices and all the bull we now must muster! Yeh! And now I gulp my last drop of beer and bail out, thank you... ;)

P.S. It should be possible 'cause they did it in '82-83 so can we? All we need are innovative engineers.

P.P.S. It's like sad to look at my A4k/040 and think this very fine technology failed to prevail although it had a chance in some point in time...It must have another shot at it!
 

Offline Iggy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2009
  • Posts: 5348
    • Show only replies by Iggy
Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2016, 12:56:30 AM »
Quote from: arttu80;803622
Hey, let's start kickstarter project to finance new company called Amiga Incorporated and then we manufacture NEW Amigas and all!  Bring 'em to new century and onto the public who's sick of Windows 10 update notices and all the bull we now must muster! Yeh! And now I gulp my last drop of beer and bail out, thank you... ;)

P.S. It should be possible 'cause they did it in '82-83 so can we? All we need are innovative engineers.

P.P.S. It's like sad to look at my A4k/040 and think this very fine technology failed to prevail although it had a chance in some point in time...It must have another shot at it!


Funny, that WAS McBill's plan up until he lost control, wasn't it?
Gee, it sounds weird when you're sarcastic about it.

Remember, its a hobby guys.
"Not making any hard and fast rules means that the moderators can use their good judgment in moderation, and we think the results speak for themselves." - Amiga.org, terms of service

"You, got to stem the evil tide, and keep it on the the inside" - Rogers Waters

"God was never on your side" - Lemmy

Amiga! "Our appeal has become more selective"
 

Offline Motormouth

Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2016, 02:45:35 AM »
Quote from: Motormouth;803304
Don't forget the sonnet crescendo 7200 in the Mediator :)


Quote from: TjLaZer;803584
No need for a PPC card for it, and I doubt it would work.  Can't wait to get one for my A500 too!  (on the waiting list for the A600)


I was attempting you be, what do the Brits call it, cheeky :)   If you are dreaming go for the maximum build possible!!!!!!
 

Offline ChaosLord

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2003
  • Posts: 2608
    • Show only replies by ChaosLord
    • http://totalchaoseng.dbv.pl/news.php
Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2016, 08:47:14 AM »
Quote from: Olecranon;803560
Slightly off topic, but I need to vent.

It confuses and annoys the **** out of me that the new Amiga Reloaded boards are going to be made to fit inside an A500 plastic case, and require the use of an Amiga keyboard.

I don't understand why the boards aren't being built in an ATX or mATX form factor, and have the native ability for for a PS2/USB Keyboard and mouse.  Add a mATX slim case and you have the modern equivalent to the Amiga 1000 form factor.

#1 The system will be properly ventilated to extend the life of those new yet aging chips.

#2 Not requiring an original A500 keyboard would be a HUGE bonus.  This requirement is short sighted and befuddling.  

#3 The system will have a proper place to mount an IBM floppy drive instead of dealing with mounting a floppy or a floppy drive emulator into a space not made for it.

#4 The external CF card slot could me made accessible in the front of the case with a 3.5" or 5.25" faceplate that could look like a modern PC flash card reader.

Some of the cost of the extras (PS2 KB/MOUSE ports) could be offset my not needing to bundle a laptop power supply.


+1
Wanna try a wonderfull strategy game with lots of handdrawn anims,
Magic Spells and Monsters, Incredible playability and lastability,
English speech, etc. Total Chaos AGA
 

Offline IanP

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Join Date: Aug 2013
  • Posts: 133
    • Show only replies by IanP
Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2016, 02:53:02 PM »
Quote from: Olecranon;803560
Slightly off topic, but I need to vent.

It confuses and annoys the **** out of me that the new Amiga Reloaded boards are going to be made to fit inside an A500 plastic case, and require the use of an Amiga keyboard.

I don't understand why the boards aren't being built in an ATX or mATX form factor, and have the native ability for for a PS2/USB Keyboard and mouse.  Add a mATX slim case and you have the modern equivalent to the Amiga 1000 form factor.
I think many people prefer an Amiga to look like an Amiga and not like an anonymous PC. Desktop PCs are dying out, they fallen out of popularity with the growth in laptop and handheld devices so if you must have a desktop Amiga it's best to be in an Amiga "Keyboard/Wedge" case.
 

Offline Vlabguy1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2006
  • Posts: 1264
    • Show only replies by Vlabguy1
Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2016, 02:57:43 PM »
Quote from: kreciu;803311
...but totally serious, appearance of this kind of project shows one thing: You can solder you "new" Amiga "at home", kind off.

I truly believe there is many of skilled Amiga users who could do this, I can only buy it :( and complain about lack of it ;).

BTW. This could very nice DIY package for sale. PCB + all components (some could be soldered, so it is easier) to make new mobo based on A1200 "architecture", later you get DIY graphic card, even later DIY sound card.

I'm quite sure there is PLENTY of people who are dreaming about soldering their own computer they actually can use, it is VERY original. Look at Raspberry... Amiga would be "better" since you could make it completely from scratch. I think I'm dreaming again.

Ideas are CHEAP, it is more difficult to make them happen :).



Send me the parts..I would love to do that type of project...so count me in on building Amigas at home.

Rich
 

Offline kreciuTopic starter

Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2016, 03:20:49 PM »
Quote from: IanP;803645
...Desktop PCs are dying out, they fallen out of popularity with the growth in laptop and handheld devices...


?

Desktops are dying? Where did you made this observation?

Sure, people are saying that desktops PC are dying but it is loooooooooongest death possible (like 20 years...).

Many people don't need any more "towers" under (on top of it or on the side) their desks, since there is plenty of "iMac" like solutions, super small PC, PC on the stick (if you are from MN you know what I mean ;) ) etc. etc. and this kind of "boring PC" will die (or is dead today).

Today (and few years back) there is "new" trend in desktop PC's: computer CASE mods etc. Desktop PC is not only for power, but also for DIY mods, make it beautiful etc. thing... one reason why I use... Amiga (for sure not for it's best operating system ever made...or amazing software)

Don't tell me this is going to dye soon. There will be steady desire to make case mods, it is like car mods. It is only for few, but there is enough of this few to make it stable income for companies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyjWXAY1n2M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBy9Mdo_2EA

BTW. Who on earth needs faster computers anymore? This is reason why desktops are dying. You can use 9 year old Core 2 Duo PC at home and it works GREAT! My CPU that is not that new anymore is like a hot knife in a butter on a hot day... even my old 680 GTX will do for next few years. If I want power to crunch some number, I go to my work server and get CPU time...
Re-A1200inE/BOX/3.2/AmigaOS3.2/TF1260@66Mhz/256Mb/MediatorTX/R9200SE/SpiderUSB/LAN/SB128/16Gb-CF/DVD-ROM/FDD-HD
 

Offline kreciuTopic starter

Re: Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...
« Reply #29 from previous page: February 07, 2016, 03:26:07 PM »
Quote from: Vlabguy1;803646
Send me the parts..I would love to do that type of project...so count me in on building Amigas at home.

Rich


It will never happen :(, but that would be definitely amazing to "build" your own computer.

People got rights for 3.1 ROM, AmigaOS 3.1 etc. basically someone would need to produce few hundreds of GBA1000 mobos, sell them with all components + 3.1 ROM and AmigaOS3.1 floppies.

I think this could be even sold OUTSIDE of Amiga world. I really think there is plenty of people who would love to solder this kind of stuff.

BTW. This kind of project could result in divorce... I hope not!
Re-A1200inE/BOX/3.2/AmigaOS3.2/TF1260@66Mhz/256Mb/MediatorTX/R9200SE/SpiderUSB/LAN/SB128/16Gb-CF/DVD-ROM/FDD-HD