NetSurf OS3.x Issues

[Retrofan]

About using the FPPrefs I was wondering if the images couldn't have some treatment and use the palette you are using, or at least some other. IBrowse for example looks much better -compared- when you use few colors. I believe that's because a option of MUI that IBrowse uses though.

[amiadudeorwat]

Apologies if this has been asked before but any chance of a WarpOS version?

[utri007]

FFPrefs = Full palette http://aminet.net/package/util/wb/FullPalette22

I quest that Netsurf uses them if you open it to workbench screen.

FPU makes big difference to performance at least with 68040 CPU.

It seems that this version uses more memory than previous version used?
Tabs has problems closing and one new problem. Only half of second tab/page will be displayed. Is it because of Graphics card memory is ending?? Previous version could dispaly both amiga.org / amigaworld.net same time.
Memory fragmention is still there. Two first pages are rendered fast, third one uses 3x more time than should.

[Acill]

Still a long way to go as far as optimising it. It would be nice to see a team put in place to help with this. Also WarpOS is a great idea now that UAE can be configured with a CSPPC it should be easy to do as long as the developer knows how to code for it.

[chris]

About using the FPPrefs I was wondering if the images couldn't have some treatment and use the palette you are using, or at least some other. IBrowse for example looks much better -compared- when you use few colors. I believe that's because a option of MUI that IBrowse uses though.

The palette mapping/dithering is done wrt the screen NetSurf is running on.  If Multiview displays OK, then NetSurf should too.  picture.datatype handles all this, I don't have any dedicated code for it as yet (that's an optimisation which really needs doing but I have no idea where to start).

Apologies if this has been asked before but any chance of a WarpOS version?

Presumably it will require yet another build of GCC.  So, in theory, yes.  In practice, probably not.

It seems that this version uses more memory than previous version used?

Shouldn't do, there are very few changes.

Only half of second tab/page will be displayed. Is it because of Graphics card memory is ending?? Previous version could dispaly both amiga.org / amigaworld.net same time.

Probably.  Again, I've not knowingly done anything to screw that up.

The only thing I remember changing for rendering involved reducing the number of pen changes - as apparently that's a slow operation.

[magnetic]

Is netsurf usable on 040@25hmz?

[utri007]

Why don't you test it yourself? Is it useable depends how you define it. Amiga.org renders 37 seconds with my 040/40mhz.

[Acill]

Is netsurf usable on 040@25hmz?

Usable yes, fun to use? Not so much. I have been testing it since he released it on my 060. Its getting better with every update, but still needs some more optimising. Check it out and see what you think is all I can say.

[utri007]

To Do List :

Fix memory fragemtnion / slow down effect
Implement faster image loading and also dithering for AGA

Best / fasted solution would be if there are some patches wich could be used for this already. At least image loader has been done hundres of times already, so some of those should be possible to adapt this Project.

[chris]

Image loading isn't a problem. It's resampling it for a particular screen which is the tricky bit.

[utri007]

Now it is possible to log on amiga.org/amigaworld.net Previous versions gave errors.

[chris]

OK, I've put a new version up - this is an experimental guigfx.library one.
Rendering=>Cache Native Versions should be set to "All" for fastest image display.
Play with the dithering too: "Low" is really "None", "Medium" is EDD and "High" is Floyd-Steinberg.
Here it looks like it has converted to a palette of about four colours, which is horrible, but might just be me.
Anyway, I'm more interested in the performance, I'll fix the display later, as it isn't working properly on OS4 either.

Now it is possible to log on amiga.org/amigaworld.net Previous versions gave errors.

ITYF you've reverted to an old version.

[utri007]

ITYF?

Also amigaworld doesn't have that annoying Graphics problem any more, can remember what caused it? Alpha mask??

Interesteing unfortunately I can't test it today, need to get some people from harbour late this night. So I need to start driving soon.

[wawrzon]

seems netsurf expects v44 version of reaction classes. is this a necessary requirement, or could this check be lowered in order to check with v41 class act ones?

[chris]

seems netsurf expects v44 version of reaction classes. is this a necessary requirement, or could this check be lowered in order to check with v41 class act ones?

I'd have to check for sure which features I use, but I suspect not. It needs v44 of other components anyway.

[utri007]

OK, I've put a new version up - this is an experimental guigfx.library one.
Rendering=>Cache Native Versions should be set to "All" for fastest image display.
Play with the dithering too: "Low" is really "None", "Medium" is EDD and "High" is Floyd-Steinberg.
Here it looks like it has converted to a palette of about four colours, which is horrible, but might just be me.
Anyway, I'm more interested in the performance, I'll fix the display later, as it isn't working properly on OS4 either.

Your site still offers 16th april  version?