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Offline KernelTopic starter

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Best TCP Software
« on: October 08, 2015, 03:26:15 PM »
So what opinions are there ion the best TCP software to use on the Amiga be it physical or emulated via WinUAE?

I've used EasyNET and Miami and MiamiDX on an A3000 in the past but was wondering if there is something more powerful, up to date, easier to use, supported, etc.

Seems like EasyNET and EasyNET Pro are both still supported and Miami/MimaiDX are dead.  But what else is there?  Links would be appreciated as well as opinions.

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Offline pVC

Re: Best TCP Software
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2015, 04:10:44 PM »
Users won't usually need any TCP/IP stack installed on the Amiga side when running it in WinUAE, just tick the bsdsocket emulation on from the WinUAE config.

For a real Amiga there are several options and the best may depend of your needs.

The most recent and probably the best all-arounder is Roadshow. It has the most modern features and supports for example DHCP and PPPoE, and it's fast. On the negative side there isn't any GUI, but it's still _really_ easy to setup, and GUI might even feel wasting resources with this :)

Then there are AmiTCP/IP based options. Original ones are hard to set up, but Genesis and EasyNet GUIs make it much better in that regard. Original 3.x is free, but later ones are commercial. Although you can get full version of Genesis with OS3.9. About as fast as Roadshow, but doesn't support DHCP or many modern features, but still a good option when static addresses is what you want. Genesis' GUI is pretty versatile, but I haven't seen EasyNet.. I think it's more simplier.

Miami(DX) has lot of features not found in other stacks, like NAT, PPPoE etc, but it's questionable if anyone needs those anymore in Amiga use. Miami is also the slowest stack of all, in many cases half of the speed of the other stacks. It's also impossible to get legally anymore. Quite easy to setup and versatile GUI too.
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Best TCP Software
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2015, 04:11:26 PM »
You ask for opinions and 1,000 people will give you 1,001 different answers. ;)  There's Roadshow, which is newer, faster, and still being developed, but personally I prefer the full GUI of Miami. Shame Holger K. had to be such a di#&. Don't forget to add Genesis to your list.
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Offline zipper

Re: Best TCP Software
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2015, 05:02:05 PM »
Last time I tried to go into the net with X-Surf I tried Miami and Genesis side by side. Genesis was the first to work so it was my choice.
 

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Re: Best TCP Software
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2015, 05:06:20 PM »
Thanks for such quick responses... I particularly was not aware of the bdsocket emulation of WinUAE since I haven't dug too deep into the docs yet.  I will have the check out RoadShow as well.
 

Offline matt3k

Re: Best TCP Software
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2015, 05:26:31 PM »
Speed wise and simple deployment, roadshow has everyone beat by a country mile really.
The author of Roadshow is accessible and easy to work with.  Just install it, and it runs.  

Easynet is a pain to setup by comparison, it does occasionally achieve similar speeds to roadshow, but it take more work and time to get going.

MiamiDX using MNI drivers has lots of features and attains decent speeds assuming your card has an MNI driver.

Genesis only used a few times.  Nothing memorable for me.

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Offline kolla

Re: Best TCP Software
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2015, 06:32:22 PM »
I recently installed RoadShow demo, and boy was it intrusive! It only left som documents in the drawer I appointed it to, and installed everything all over sys: :eek:

I mean - assigns, path - why not use them!
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Re: Best TCP Software
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2015, 06:59:22 PM »
Roadshow, buy it support it.
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Re: Best TCP Software
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2015, 09:40:29 PM »
IMHO, Roadshow is the best TCP/IP stack.
It's very light and easy to setup. Just like Lurch says - I've bought it in order to support it.
It was a very rewarding decision.
 

Offline SACC-guy

Re: Best TCP Software
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2015, 09:43:35 PM »
Okay...so where do you buy it -Roadshow(find it?)?
 

Offline kolla

Re: Best TCP Software
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2015, 09:44:42 PM »
Support? Has Olsen given any signs that he intends to support it further?

And you can buy it here - http://www.amigashop.org/product_info.php?products_id=200
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Re: Best TCP Software
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2015, 09:46:14 PM »
You can buy it here:
http://roadshow.apc-tcp.de/index-en.php

http://www.amigashop.org/product_info.php?products_id=200&osCsid=2j52fdsil7sctp63vhev610dr7

@kolla
He has not given any signs that he won't support it in the future.
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Offline paul1981

Re: Best TCP Software
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2015, 10:06:55 PM »
I use Roadshow and I'm extremely happy with it. Easy to configure too.
 

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Re: Best TCP Software
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2015, 10:34:53 PM »
Quote from: paul1981;797096
I use Roadshow and I'm extremely happy with it. Easy to configure too.

Yes, I agree.
Here are some examples of how to connect Amiga to the Internet using a WIFI, Ethernet cards and Roadshow.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k7yF340BwUM9z3bVBLW

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x378gt9_how-to-set-up-a-pcmcia-ethernet-card-on-a-standard-amiga-1200_tech

Both videos have been done by TenLeftFingers :)
 

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Re: Best TCP Software
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2015, 10:35:38 PM »
Quote from: kolla;797093
Support? Has Olsen given any signs that he intends to support it further?


Olaf "Olsen" Barthel is an active user of this forum.

http://www.amiga.org/forums/member.php?u=897

His last activity is today which is a pretty good sign. He has supported the Amiga for decades which is also a pretty good sign. The Amiga is not his primary job so he can be busy at times but he is as helpful and professional as he can be considering the current Amiga situation. Classic Amiga development and support is more of a hobby and labor of love these days than anything else ;).