More info on 'Amiga Reloaded'

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Which means it might also work with a Blizzard PPC.  As if those danged cards don't already fetch a pretty penny.  

Too bad it won't work with all those "FPU + RAM only" cards floating around, haha.  :insane:

[KimmoK]

Amiga Reloaded sounds cool!

"USB functionality can be added with the X-Surf-100 version of RapidRoad."
"The Amiga Reloaded will use the same expansion port as the ACA500 and ACA500plus for a networking card."

Ideally there should be USB and RJ45 as a standard nowdays.

[polyp2000]

Amiga Reloaded sounds cool!

"USB functionality can be added with the X-Surf-100 version of RapidRoad."
"The Amiga Reloaded will use the same expansion port as the ACA500 and ACA500plus for a networking card."

Ideally there should be USB and RJ45 as a standard nowdays.

I agree - indi mk2 should also be standard. This would probably increase the overall cost of the board , but would probably be cheaper and less "hacky" than adding them via add on boards.

Im not a hardware guy - but I was kind of hoping for a bit more of an  upgrade than this.

eg: how about some standard ram slots and a chip ram upgrade ?

also - how about talking with the guys working on Apollo / Phoenix ? I think one of the stumbling blocks for an a1200 version is the cpu connector  - some sort of more readily available connector would be handy!

Nick

[guest11527]

Why not increase the chip RAM to 8MB as we all know that this is possible, anyway not looking good.

Simply because the board uses the original CBM chipset, and this can only address 2MB chip RAM, not more.

[Rob]

Per recent discussions, the Flash ROM option means Amigakit will not carry/sell this item.  But I will just order directly from icomp.de myself.

I seem to have missed those discussions.  Can provide a link or just give a brief summary.

[psxphill]

Simply because the board uses the original CBM chipset, and this can only address 2MB chip RAM, not more.

The limitation is in Alice. It might just be lack of support in the chip, but I've never bothered to look whether the pin out would support >2mb. It's a dram interface so row and column addresses are multiplexed, it's not as simple as counting address bits. Bearing in mind the a4000 2mb/8mb chip jumper, it's possible that if you could obtain an Alice that supported 8mb it would drop in to the design. It might need different ram though.
 
 It's possible but unlikely that Alice would support 8mb but the motherboard and ram that commodore supplied was unsuitable. I'm not holding out any hope that anyone would find out how to make that work, even if it did exist.
 
 The only way to fix it would be with an FPGA and then you might as well buy a mist or arcadefpga.

[kamelito]

Is this what Jens call "Clone-A"?
Kamelito

[KimmoK]

Is this what Jens call "Clone-A"?
Kamelito

No. Clone-A was/is a project to replace CBM made chipset with FPGA chips.
Amiga Reloaded would use existing (CBM manufactured) components.

http://www.amigahistory.plus.com/clone-a.html
http://www.totalamiga.org/files/TA25_JensIviewExtract.pdf
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Clone-A "went the way of "no more announcements until it's done"." was said by Jens in 2011.

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Something different, I did not know or remember there was also "Amy the Dream Clone".
http://blog.a-eon.biz/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Amiga_Dream_Clone.jpg
http://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2013-06-00039-EN.html

+ AmigaReloaded
Sources of components etc:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=78847&page=5

[Pyromania]

The Amiga Reloaded sounds like an exciting development. I can't wait until it's available to get. Individual Computers makes great products.

[Brian]

I understand all the IComp modules being left out to get the cost down but I'd realy like to see at least the IndivisionAGA be included.

I'd also love to see something like a extended MiniITX board, with a keyboard interface and a Zorroslot or two (like the Amy Dream Clone and later 416D79) so we can get RTG and use a modern case.

[Rob]

I understand all the IComp modules being left out to get the cost down but I'd realy like to see at least the IndivisionAGA be included.

Some people prefer to hook up an old 15khz CRT or SCART TV for their display and would be asking why they have to pay extra for a built in SD/FF.

[Brian]

@Rob
That is because you see it as pay extra... why do you have to pay extra for the included TrueIDE CF solution instead of a cheap IDE port where I can use my old harddrive and optical drive?

I'd just like to see a more complete motherboard, one where the output isn't monocrome as standard and where I have to pay extra no matter if I want 23pin RGB port or VGA/DVI port.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

@Rob
That is because you see it as pay extra... why do you have to pay extra for the included TrueIDE CF solution instead of a cheap IDE port where I can use my old harddrive and optical drive.

OMG you guys.  With that logic, why include anything?  What if I want to buy just a bare motherboard without the Alice and Lisa and Paula chips, can I do that and use my own?  How about "can I buy it with no keyboard header to save .05 cents, and solder my own on?"

I facepalm so hard at this forum, sometimes.  :angry:

[Brian]

@Mike
Exactly my point... I just pointed out that "I don't want to pay extra for X" wasn't the argument I was making but that I thought a propper videooption shouldn't be an option to begin with on an Amiga motherboard.

[danbeaver]

See http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=69093 on Flash ROM's

Read post #11 and forward from there.

[alphadec]

sounds awsome