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More info on 'Amiga Reloaded'
« on: June 30, 2015, 07:46:10 PM »
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looks like jens has a wiki page on his upcoming 'amiga reloaded' project that he announced at the amiga 30th anniversary show in amsterdam this past weekend. sounds very interesting:

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Much like the C64 Reloaded, the Amiga Reloaded will be a new Amiga  motherboard using original MOS/CSG chips. It does not directly compare  to any existing Amiga mainboard, but if you want a comparison basis, then  an A1200 is probably the closest match. However, there are differences that also make it very much "not A1200".
lots more information available on the wiki page including details on what case to fit it into, CPU options, chipset, expansion options, etc.

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Re: More info on 'Amiga Reloaded'
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2015, 07:58:21 PM »
Linky no work.  :(

Edit:  here you go.  :)  wiki.icomp.de/wiki/Amiga_reloaded
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Re: More info on 'Amiga Reloaded'
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2015, 08:07:00 PM »
@Oldsmobile_Mike

whoops! thanks for the heads-up. link is now fixed. :)

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Re: More info on 'Amiga Reloaded'
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2015, 08:17:45 PM »
Had me until:

"The Amiga Reloaded will not have any CPU. We know that there are many flavours of Amiga fans out there, and each of them defines "Amiga" with their own standards. While some of you will primarily use less CPU-demanding programs, others want the highest possible performance. This means that no matter what type of CPU we would choose, it would be the wrong choice for many customers. We therefore let the customer make the decision: Amiga Reloaded has an A1200-compatible CPU slot where a CPU card must be installed to operate the board. Compatibility of A1200 accelerator boards will be the same as with the ACA500: We will guarantee that our ACA12xx cards work (except for the old ACA1230 type), and we'll also do our best to make the popular Blizzard cards work. However, there will be no product support for operation with non-iComp branded CPU cards.

The choice of no CPU on the mainboard has two main advantages: For one, you don't have to pay for a CPU that you don't use anyway. Second, it gives you the possibility to build a very low-cost Amiga with the forthcoming ACA1221(EC) cards. "

Also what about Mediators etc, it also appears you need to buy another Indivision to work with the new board.

Subway USB no clock port??

Why not increase the chip RAM to 8MB as we all know that this is possible, anyway not looking good.

Really after something I can replace my poor A1200 motherboard with.
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Re: More info on 'Amiga Reloaded'
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2015, 08:27:21 PM »
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Had me until:  (snip)

Ha, I thought that was one of the best perks!  One of my issues with the ACA500 (besides that it's an ugly external thing), was that it came with a wimpy processor that needs to be augmented with an extra accelerator to be of any use.  Why bother?  I like that a user can "add his own CPU" now.  To each their own, I suppose!  :)

I like stories, I wonder how Jens came across the motherload of old C= era AGA chips?

Video output sounds very modular.  Wonder if somewhere down the line someone will develop additional options?  Hummm...  ;)
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Re: More info on 'Amiga Reloaded'
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2015, 08:40:41 PM »
I'm worried about Network. I can't imagine amiga without a Network. PCMCIA NICs has disadvantages, but there are plenty of them and they are cheap.

No cpu is good choise, as I wouldn't be happy with anything less than 040
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Re: More info on 'Amiga Reloaded'
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2015, 08:52:47 PM »
I guess it makes sense.  The CPU, Fast RAM and USB I was hoping for could simply be added via the planned 28MHz 68020EC card.

That would just leave the SD/FF on my wish list which is covered by this option:

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Flickerfixer output board

Another alternative is the special version of Indivision AGA MK2, which can be installed as the second alternative: This will give you a VGA and an HDMI output for the Amiga Reloaded. The price of this option will be lower than the price of the Indivision AGA MK2 product for the A1200, as this one does not have to deal with the space constraints of the original Commodore board.
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Re: More info on 'Amiga Reloaded'
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2015, 09:50:47 PM »
I have at least one empty A1200 shell sure there's another around somewhere so it would be great if I wanted to build a new system from scratch since it will be cheaper than getting an A1200 motherboard and building up a system based around that.
 

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Re: More info on 'Amiga Reloaded'
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2015, 10:10:44 PM »
I will pre-order this and have it next to my regular A1200, no onboard CPU dosn't matter for me.

Will probably put it in a A500 case, quite easy to find and for nice prices :)

Would want 8MB chip ram and the possability to toggle to 2MB via jumper/switch but I take what I get ^^

Probably will fit an 030 card in it until Apollo team releases a A1200 expansion :)

I like that the Kickstarts are in flash memory, open up a lot of posability to try out my own modified kickstarts without the hassle of burning new EPROMS.

Neat witha a new Amiga mainboard so I like this!
 

Offline danbeaver

Re: More info on 'Amiga Reloaded'
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2015, 12:02:17 AM »
Per recent discussions, the Flash ROM option means Amigakit will not carry/sell this item.  But I will just order directly from icomp.de myself.
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: More info on 'Amiga Reloaded'
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2015, 01:03:10 AM »
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Per recent discussions, the Flash ROM option means Amigakit will not carry/sell this item.

Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
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Re: More info on 'Amiga Reloaded'
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2015, 04:10:38 AM »
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I guess it makes sense.  The CPU, Fast RAM and USB I was hoping for could simply be added via the planned 28MHz 68020EC card.

That would just leave the SD/FF on my wish list which is covered by this option:

It will get very expensive though...

You'll need the MB (> 200 EUR) + the (new) scan-doubler card + a (new) IC accelerator card just to build a usable computer.

And if you want to add LAN and USB then you need to purchase further IC cards.

It's great to see a new classic MB of course but this is sounding too expensive.
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Re: More info on 'Amiga Reloaded'
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2015, 06:00:23 AM »
It's not the fact it wont come with a CPU but it limits what cards I can connect to it. So I can't use my Apollo 060.

Also dislike the fact my mediator may not work with it, some mention about that would be nice.

Anyway, if he must tinker 8MB chip should be on the list.
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Re: More info on 'Amiga Reloaded'
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2015, 06:07:56 AM »
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It's not the fact it wont come with a CPU but it limits what cards I can connect to it. So I can't use my Apollo 060.

It sounds like it 'might' work with your Apollo but it's not guaranteed to work, only the newer ACA 12xx cards are guaranteed to work (so even super fast ACA1230 56Mhz may not work)
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Re: More info on 'Amiga Reloaded'
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2015, 06:18:00 AM »
Which means it might also work with a Blizzard PPC.  As if those danged cards don't already fetch a pretty penny.  ;)

Too bad it won't work with all those "FPU + RAM only" cards floating around, haha.  :insane:
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