Hyperion Entertainment: Clarification of Current Situation

[agami]

@eliyahu

Yes dad.

It's a little hard not to be snippy when Hyperion don't seem to understand the meaning of the word Clarification. And when their response to a fairly constructive question is so laconic that one gets the impression that they must be paying by the word over there.

And what the f#@& is a concrete idea? How do I know I have one? And what have they done since the mediation with Amiga Inc. that will give me any confidence that any "concrete" ideas will actually be considered.

I can tell you right now which ideas Hyperion will not consider be concrete, irrespective of the amount of supporting data:
- Porting of AmigaOS to another ISA
- Opening up the source of AmigaOS
- Sub-licensing AmigaOS to another company

As in ideas that can actually make a difference to the community.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

:hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer:

[wawrzon]

the fact remains that with os4 pretty every opportunity is taken to ask for money, especially that it is always justified with supporting the system and its future. i have not seen it with amiga, morphos or aros projects otherwise.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

the fact remains that with os4 pretty every opportunity is taken to ask for money, especially that it is always justified with supporting the system and its future. i have not seen it with amiga, morphos or aros projects otherwise.

Ridiculous.  Don't buy it then, if you don't like it.  :lol: :lol: :lol: :roflmao: :laughing:

[ferrellsl]

Ridiculous.  Don't buy it then, if you don't like it.  :lol: :lol: :lol: :roflmao: :laughing:

That's the beauty of capitalism.  People are voting with their wallets which is why Hyperion is such straits in spite of all the fan-boy posts and cheerleaders extolling the virtues of Hyperion and PPC CPUs.  If OS4 was a decent product sold at a decent price, things would be vastly different but it's a "Frankenstein's Monster of an OS" that can't even compete with Windows 98 when comparing features. OS4 has been a dead-end for quite some time as has the PPC architecture but the fan-boys here want you to believe otherwise.  And since A-Eon bought Amiga.org and AmigWorld.net I find the actions of the moderators on both sites to be suspect and definitely it's a conflict of interest to be working for A-Eon and moderating the comments of forum members who are critical of OS4 and A-Eon.  It seems that even the slightest hint of criticism leveled at Hyperion or A-Eon brings warnings from the moderators that the thread will be locked or the user banned.

[amigacooke]

Yet another thread that shows why the 'Amiga' community is shrinking and will continue to do so.

What sane newcomer would invest either time or money in a community that appears to enjoy infighting more than any other activity.

It's a sad rump (with notable exceptions) of what used to be one of the great communities.

[BSzili]

On contrary, I see the so called classic community is still thriving. What shrinks is the NG community, but not because of the lack of monolithic thought

[apsturk]

Yet another thread that shows why the 'Amiga' community is shrinking and will continue to do so.

What sane newcomer would invest either time or money in a community that appears to enjoy infighting more than any other activity.

It's a sad rump (with notable exceptions) of what used to be one of the great communities.

I got into Amiga stuff in 2013 and now have many of them including a AmigaOneX1000 I got in feb 2015. I am new and spend lot of money and could not be happier.

[amigakit]

@apsturk

Hope you are enjoying the new system.  It's good to see even more X1000 users.

[slayer]

Yes, nice one Apsturk, welcome to the club!

hey, nice graphics card there ;-)

[wawrzon]

Yet another thread that shows why the 'Amiga' community is shrinking and will continue to do so.

What sane newcomer would invest either time or money in a community that appears to enjoy infighting more than any other activity.

It's a sad rump (with notable exceptions) of what used to be one of the great communities.

the foras are where people go to rant, or to pat each other on the shoulder. pick your choice. where and if things get done you may not even notice that here.

On contrary, I see the so called classic community is still thriving. What shrinks is the NG community, but not because of the lack of monolithic thought

one needs to make his own mind as to where investing limited time. knowledge and motivation is safest. genuine amiga and it associated projects both hardware and software is a probably the safest especially if where the projects are open and community driven.

[agami]

Are you contractually obligated to comment when someone posts they've received their X1000?

There were no such comments when I received my Indivision 1200 AGA MK2cr or when I got my copy of AmigaOS 4.1 Classic.

[yssing]

the fact remains that with os4 pretty every opportunity is taken to ask for money, especially that it is always justified with supporting the system and its future. i have not seen it with amiga, morphos or aros projects otherwise.

Please clarify.

AFAIK user had to buy 4.0 then 4.1, but that was way back in 2008 or so, after that, they did give us alot of free updates and boing bags. Then they put 4.1 FE on sale, for a very small amount. Besides no one forced any one to buy anything.

[kolla]

My main problem with the "NG" is that there's nothing NG about them, they have the exact same limitations as old AmigaOS3 and suffer from the exact same problems.

[amigakit]

@kolla

A-EON is involved in a few projects at the moment which involve both OS 3 and OS 4 versions to be developed at the same time.

The developer involved has commented on the huge differences and advancements between OS 3.9 and the current 4.1 in terms of core libraries.  This has slowed development down as a lot of AmigaOS 3.9 functions have to be patched or written from scratch.

It would be great from a developers point of view if OS 3.x was keeping pace with OS 4.1 in development terms as it would make porting a lot easier.

[Iggy]

My main problem with the "NG" is that there's nothing NG about them, they have the exact same limitations as old AmigaOS3 and suffer from the exact same problems.

You mean like only being able to run on genuine Amiga, being limited to about a 75 MHz processor, with no modern expansion bus or video card suppor support, right?