Very hard to understand

[buzz]

The Pi is a fantastic  toy, and it has a ton of useful applications (I use mine for video surveillance), but as a desktop system it's absolutely horrific. Framebuffer drivers were cool back in '98, but trying to run a full-HD desktop with it is just painful.

the pi now has a hardware accelerated X server afaik. pi2 should be a lot more usable from the desktop than the pi1.

Not that I use mine for that - I use mine for Kodi and emulation (in a picade).

[kolla]

Yeah maybe Olsen, but I don't think he is interested.

[Lionheart]

Errrr... you don't know me too well do you? LMAO. ALL my consoles (NGC, Original XBox and WII) are hacked. Viper Chip, X-Ecutor 3, Letterbomb respectively. My Dreamcast has a boot disk for homebrew and even my N64 that I sold had an V64 Doctor. I've hacked, modded or Jailbroken everthing I own. The only exception is the PS3 as it's actually my daughters and they (I have twins) just don't use it anymore since they started playing Skyrim on the PC.

...hmm, come to think of it I've not done my Kindle yet, I've been rather busy lately.

But OK, I take your point. So I ask you this instead. Why would I buy your design over OUYA , Uzebox, Caanoo, Pandora, nD or even Minimig, FPGA Arcade or Raspberry Pi?

I've installed modchips in various consoles (PS2, Wii, XBox, Gamecube, PS,...etc) and have hacked a few hard drives for the Xbox 360.  However, newer consoles prevent the use of modchips and exploits through firmware updates.

You forgot the Dingoo. :p  And the last time I checked the nD was vaporware.  Most of those systems are also running Linux, not AROS. The OUYA has the best specifications but is really just an Android with a controller that plugs into your TV.  

  I'm not asking you to buy anything and I have no intention of selling a custom made board.  What I suggest is an open standard for creating a console/computer running AROS.  Using a Raspberry Pi, BeagleBone,HummingBoard, Orange Pi, pcDuino3 nano...etc, it would even be possible to add an FPGA expansion that would also allow it to function as a Minimig.  The benefit of doing this would give AROS a standard to run on and increase development and interest in the OS.  Even Linux has trouble supporting all the hardware available on the PC, which is another reason why MorphOS sticks with Power Macs and OS4 sticks to their expensive custom boards.  It would be easier for AROS to get one open standard single-board computer working well than a thousand different PCs.  It's a better starting point.  The console aspect and homebrew community development could set them apart from their competitors, as Amiga has a better reputation when it comes to gaming than Linux.

@ Lionheart

man what's going on with the a.org nowadays?? it took 49 posts...49 posts!

dammit TMHTG I miss ya bro;)

O_o What's TMHTG?

[ferrellsl]

  I'm not asking you to buy anything and I have no intention of selling a custom made board.  What I suggest is an open standard for creating a console/computer running AROS.  Using a Raspberry Pi, BeagleBone,HummingBoard, Orange Pi, pcDuino3 nano...etc, it would even be possible to add an FPGA expansion that would also allow it to function as a Minimig.  The benefit of doing this would give AROS a standard to run on and increase development and interest in the OS.  Even Linux has trouble supporting all the hardware available on the PC, which is another reason why MorphOS sticks with Power Macs and OS4 sticks to their expensive custom boards.  It would be easier for AROS to get one open standard single-board computer working well than a thousand different PCs.  It's a better starting point.  The console aspect and homebrew community development could set them apart from their competitors, as Amiga has a better reputation when it comes to gaming than Linux.

There's already a standard system for running AROS.  It's an x86 system.  Or if you cling to 68K, then run 68K AROS on classic hardware, one of the UAE variants, or on a MiniMig.  No one in their right mind wants to run any Amigoid OS on a console.  What would be the point of dedicating a console to a dead OS?  To play 25 yr old side-scrollers?  Why would anyone complicate a Pi by adding an FPGA like you suggest?  It isn't needed.  The MiniMig already does what you're suggesting without the overhead and cost of a Pi.  This is getting absurd.

Once again, another thread hijacked by someone who believes that an Amigoid OS would take the world by storm "if".

[Lionheart]

There's already a standard system for running AROS.  It's an x86 system.  Or if you cling to 68K, then run 68K AROS on classic hardware, one of the UAE variants, or on a MiniMig.  No one in their right mind wants to run any Amigoid OS on a console.  What would be the point of dedicating a console to a dead OS?  To play 25 yr old side-scrollers?  Why would anyone complicate a Pi by adding an FPGA like you suggest?  It isn't needed.  The MiniMig already does what you're suggesting without the overhead and cost of a Pi.  This is getting absurd.

Once again, another thread hijacked by someone who believes that an Amigoid OS would take the world by storm "if".

Once again, another thread hijacked by someone who can't read.  I never said that an Amigoid OS would take the world by storm.  My idea would at least make the Minimig cheaper and not just a custom made board replicating an A500.

[Tripitaka]

O_o What's TMHTG?

Probably the most fanatical Morph OS fanboy ever. I'll say no more.

[danbeaver]

Fanatic, or angry and abusive?

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Please don't speak his name, the forums have been so peaceful lately.  :lol:

[danbeaver]

"He who shall not be named"

[klx300r]

well let's just say I'm honestly worried about him...very very odd not to have him 'visit' every single thread that has a slight tint of Amiga OS4.x in it.

@ Oldsmobile_Mike & danbeaver & Tripitaka

I know I know but honestly I miss him like the sheep dog misses the coyote:)

[ferrellsl]

Once again, another thread hijacked by someone who can't read.  I never said that an Amigoid OS would take the world by storm.  My idea would at least make the Minimig cheaper and not just a custom made board replicating an A500.

OK.  Then please explain your lack of math skills.  How does adding an FPGA extension to a dev board or a Pi make for a cheaper system than a standalone Minimig that already does everything you've outlined?  The Minimig already has the functionality you're talking about and the extra pins to implement it as well, so again, your suggestion is a bit absurd.  It's recreating the wheel and making it more complicated and more expensive as well.  Or one could use the FPGA Replay board.  It has even more expandability and it's available as well.

And I read what you wrote quite clearly and even quoted it in my response and now you're trying to say something different.  You suggested that a console created from a dev board with an FPGA extension to run AROS is a good idea.  It isn't.  There are already better options for that, and cheaper too.

[Tripitaka]

well let's just say I'm honestly worried about him...very very odd not to have him 'visit' every single thread that has a slight tint of Amiga OS4.x in it.

@ Oldsmobile_Mike & danbeaver & Tripitaka

I know I know but honestly I miss him like the sheep dog misses the coyote:)

I honestly think that most "heated" debates on A.org are between people whom if they had met face to face would have a great chat about a commonly shared interest over a pint or two. He was the ONLY person ever on A.org to genuinely annoy me.

@ klx300r.... ..I think you may have a touch of masochism going on there buddy.

[klx300r]

@ Tripitaka

I think you've got your 'definition' confused there mate:lol:

Let me clarify the reference for the youngins here & for those unfortunate souls that never got the chance to watch Saturday morning cartoons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_u3YRZb74w

[Lionheart]

OK.  Then please explain your lack of math skills.  How does adding an FPGA extension to a dev board or a Pi make for a cheaper system than a standalone Minimig that already does everything you've outlined?

Raspberry Pi = $20 to $35  FPGA = $25 to $89  Total cost = $45 to $125

Parallella (ARM+FPGA) = $99

Minimig = $150 to $200

And I read what you wrote quite clearly and even quoted it in my response and now you're trying to say something different.  You suggested that a console created from a dev board with an FPGA extension to run AROS is a good idea.  It isn't.  There are already better options for that, and cheaper too.

I never said that the FPGA extension was for running AROS.  That I agree would be stupid and pointless.  My idea was to have them running in parallel.  That way you would have the benefit of two systems in one: A NG using an ARM processor and running AROS and a hardware emulated 68k Amiga using the FPGA extension.   The concept is kinda similar to the first PS3s with PS2 backwards compatibility except with an FPGA.

[danbeaver]

@ Tripitaka

I think you've got your 'definition' confused there mate:lol:

Let me clarify the reference for the youngins here & for those unfortunate souls that never got the chance to watch Saturday morning cartoons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_u3YRZb74w

Most of the important lessons in life are learned from Warner Brother's Cartoons -- think about it.

[klx300r]

Most of the important lessons in life are learned from Warner Brother's Cartoons -- think about it.

:biglaugh::hammer: