Hyperion bankrupt?

[Manu]

Why are you people hijacking this thread with stupid car comments and why are the mods allowing it? wtf?

Bring something to the discussion then instead of making stupid comments about stupid car comments. I thought most of the discussion was over and we were in wait and see mode here.

[danbeaver]

One more:

There is nothing sweeter than the sound of a 427 Chevy engine with mechanical lifters and a tri-barrel carb at idle.

[amigadave]

yes, but for exactly this reason they would have to issue a note on this, knowing it will now at least take time to handle it, if at all. it would have been discovered sooner or later.

I hope that Ben Hermans learns from this mistake and pays his creditors on time from now on, but I doubt it.

I think that many/most attorneys think that they can get away without paying their bills on time (and maybe sometimes not pay some of them at all), because they know they have the ability to defend themselves in court without having to pay another attorney to show up in court for them.  All it costs them is their own time, which is no loss if they don't have a client to bill for that same amount of time that they spend in court defending themselves.

As you wrote, Ben Hermans should have made some kind of statement to explain what happened BEFORE the Amiga community found out and began this thread, but then he has never been accused of being the smartest man on the planet, or making the wisest business decisions, specially when it concerns public relations with this community.

Edit:  What others wrote about the frequency of this type of thing happening with small companies is also very true, not that it justifies this type of behavior.  I am sure it happens more often with companies that repeatedly run with a yearly loss, instead of a yearly profit, and I am pretty sure Hyperion's AmigaOS business loses money every year, though we may never see sales numbers and actual business expenses to prove this one way or the other.

[matthey]

I just bought a new-ish Camaro and gave my oldest son the 97 Firebird I've been driving forever.

After having the car for two days (tonight) he calls me and says that "there was a loud noise so I pulled over and when I put it in park, it still rolls".

He's broken either a u-joint (I hope) or the drive shaft or something. Not sure which yet.

I just now got it towed back home, so now I know what I'm doing for the weekend.:pint:

The Firebird sounds as broke as Hyperion. Otherwise automatics won't roll in park. You better hope it is something between the tranny and diff or it's going to be expensive. I hope you show your son how to work on it for next time he goes on a a test drive. Make sure he can at least change all the spark plugs. I had a mechanic friend with an earlier LT1 manual Firebird and there was one spark plug that he never changed because he couldn't (from the bottom with several swivels). Maybe GM fixed that problem but then again we are talking about GM. They are to engineering as Hyperion is to software development. See, we can stay on topic .

There is nothing sweeter than the sound of a 427 Chevy engine with mechanical lifters and a tri-barrel carb at idle.

I've heard the rhythmic lope and hollow rumble of exhausts of various sweet sounding V8s as I live in the Midwest (I've even driven a few). However, not many people have heard the sound of an 80ci 2 rotor sequential twin turbocharged Wankel with titanium exhaust easing into WOT at mid-rpm in 3rd gear. First comes the sound of the aluminum intake sucking in air and the rpm wanting to go higher as the sound becomes something like a propellor plane taking off. As I reach WOT, the torque that sneeks up on the passenger can be felt in the lower stomach and some murmer an expletive as they reach for whatever they can hold on to. The exhaust now sounds like a hornets nest trapped in the titanium but smooths out into one deep take-off pitch that is loud but not too loud. Let off and the swush of the blow off valves can be heard. Fun, but now lets try it on some twisty country backroads. My car is a silver base model '93 Mazda RX-7 with bolt-ons. Unlike Hyperion, I enjoy diversity and choice which is a better business strategy than going bankrupt with one processor for a nich upper class market. See, our car conversation is on topic again.

[A6000]

All these posters in love with cars yet no-one wanted an electric car forum, very odd.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

"Electric cars" are way different than classic cars.  

I had an RX-7 for a while.  Think it was an '82, with the 70CID Wankel engine and a massive Holley 4 barrel carburetor on top.  I swear the carb was bigger than the engine.  Had about 180,000 miles on it and the apex seals leaked like a sieve, had to take the plugs out and clean them every time I wanted to start the POS.  I wear size 13W boots, and the toe of my boot would get caught underneath the dashboard every time I wanted to change gears.  Traded that sucker for my 1970 Olds '98 convertible, that I used to have.  

GM transverse-mounted, V6, front wheel drive engines of the mid to late '80s were the worst, we'd change the three plugs on the front and leave the three on the back, could never reach those suckers with with all the swivels in the world.  Figured half a tuneup was better than none!   I, too, know the pain of working on Firebirds.  It was always the one plug back near the AC vent box.  Impossible!

I'm excited about the new Breaking Bad spinoff, "Better Call Saul".  Every time I think of Ben Hermans I'm going to think of Saul, from now on!

Also, I don't know what the reader or member levels of amiga.org are compared to amigaworld.net, or EAB, or that German forum, or what-have-you, but it seems really dumb that Hyperion doesn't have at least some kind of "official" presence on this site.  They could clear things up really easily if they wanted to.  Then again, they are lawyers!  

[Kremlar]

Had an '86 RX-7 when I was much younger that developed bad seals, white smoke.  Had to keep a gallon of water with me.  Swapped it out with a used motor that lasted for a while, but that one ended up going the other way and started blowing blue smoke on startup.  Still, it gave me lots of enjoyable miles and I was kind of sad when I had to get rid of it.

Had a '94 RX-7 TT for a few years in 2005 or so, weekend driver.  What an amazing car!  Had always wanted one and was in heaven when I finally got one.  Flew out to Ohio to purchase and drove it back.  I always thought what attracted me to the rotary is what attracted me to the Amiga when I was younger.

Now I'm a Jeep guy but have a '92 300ZX TT for the occasional weekend drive.  Don't like it as much as my old RX-7, but I do enjoy it - especially the t-tops.

[Heiroglyph]

All these posters in love with cars yet no-one wanted an electric car forum, very odd.

I'm not really interested in current electric cars, but old and current gasoline cars appeal to me, much like old, accessible computers as opposed to OS 4.1 on custom hardware.

Neither Tesla nor Hyperion really get any money from me. To me, the price of entry is too high to justify the limited range of use.

Muscle cars have an emotional attachment for me that is very similar to Amigas.

I'll dump money into a classic car that will never handle or accelerate as well as a Tesla, but a Tesla just doesn't do it for me emotionally.

My new-ish Camaro is sort of like MorphOS. It's not a real classic, but the performance is better, it's comfortable, it tries to resemble a classic and it's affordable.

[danbeaver]

The 2008 (15,000 miles) Mitsubishi EVO X (chipped of course) with eased aspiration, heavy duty clutch and cat-back exhaust that I left in the states  felt like a rocket on rails with the tightest steering I've every felt; at 3100 RPM as both turbos spin up to full boost you can hear them faintly whine as the car slams you into the seat and whispers, "Lets play!"

[eliyahu]

@thread

guys, i know you're having a good time, but we're starting to get complaints about all of the car-talk in this thread. please open a new thread to continue, but further posts need to be on the subject of the thread.

-- eliyahu

[Heiroglyph]

@thread

guys, i know you're having a good time, but we're starting to get complaints about all of the car-talk in this thread. please open a new thread to continue, but further posts need to be on the subject of the thread.

-- eliyahu

Sorry, I just thought it was funny that it went that direction.

It's nice that discussion of an Amiga related legal matter hasn't turned into a flame and speculation nightmare though.

That was more unexpected than the car talk.

[QuikSanz]

Sorry. Please consider the thread abandonware.

[Rob]

@thread

guys, i know you're having a good time, but we're starting to get complaints about all of the car-talk in this thread. please open a new thread to continue, but further posts need to be on the subject of the thread.

-- eliyahu

As Manu said, the discussion is in wait and see mode now.  The only real meat of the discussion is that Hyperion have been declared bankrupt and are appealing that decision.

There's no real further discussion until we hear that either the appeal was successful or failed.

[Glittering]

Well, that is certainly good news. Maybe the Amiga has a chance now...

Exactly and lets be honest here. Amiga Inc, Hyperion and the rest of those amateurs have done nothing positive whatsoever with the Amiga platform and its not like they haven't had chance after chance handed to them on a silver platter but chose to ignore them.

The real people who've hurt the Amiga over the years are not only the above mentioned amateurs but the actual die hard fans who (happily) played their part with going along with EVERYTHING that was (clearly) damaging to the Amiga.........Whilst the ones who was actually trying to get common sense into the users and amateur companies was attacked and labelled as trolls etc.

I'm glad I bought Amiga Forever (and for only a fiver).

[utri007]

I'm very happy with my Amiga OS4.1 machine, so Hyoerion has made some positive things. Amiga OS4 is very faithfull for original OS.

So there is many opinions and it is annnoyning when some people say their own opinions as a general fact.

[Nlandas]

i have just read that on amiga-news:

http://www.faillissementsdossier.be/de/insolvenz/1039367/hyperion-entertainment-cvba.aspx

in english:
http://www.faillissementsdossier.be/en/bankruptcy/1039367/hyperion-entertainment-cvba.aspx

Hyperion is bankrupt?

I have been praying that someone who remains with rights to the OS I.P. would come to their senses and Open Source AmigaOS. If we can build a community of developers behind the code based on the original source perhaps someday we can get it ported to x86. Yes, I know AROS has been working steadily on an x86 Amiga-compatible OS but this would be based on the actual source code and the work already done on 4.

I know we all have different ideas of what Amiga is/was but I really miss a lot of what AmigaOS had to offer and my monthly A1200 fix will only last so long. For the longest time I hoped for an x86 port with PCI AGA card but with how fast brute force processors have gotten emulation might be able to offer an abstraction layer to play older games within a new x86 OS.

I'd rather run the OS native and emulate the chipsets than emulate the whole OS and hardware. I'm probably a very, very small minority though and many will just say - run AROS.