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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #284 from previous page: February 16, 2015, 10:35:02 PM »
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #285 on: February 16, 2015, 10:45:38 PM »
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And it's was not 600$ a year, but 600.000$ up front, plus 5% of all profits.

Where do you see that?  Original quote says $600.  Seems very reasonable.
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #286 on: February 16, 2015, 10:53:09 PM »
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Where do you see that?  Original quote says $600.  Seems very reasonable.

Are you referring back to me or do you have another source? I checked and my writing was "600.000 dollars".
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #287 on: February 16, 2015, 10:54:19 PM »
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Are you referring back to me or do you have another source? I checked and my writing was "600.000 dollars".

The source is a post someone else linked to:

http://www.amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=37810&forum=17&start=100&viewmode=flat&order=0#710057
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #288 on: February 16, 2015, 11:03:27 PM »
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It's just a name. And that price has to be added somewhere. Would you pay an extra 500$ just for the luxury to call the computer an "Amiga"? It's not like we aren't doing that already anyway.

People pay a lot more than that for apple puters.
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #289 on: February 16, 2015, 11:11:31 PM »
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The source is a post someone else linked to:

http://www.amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=37810&forum=17&start=100&viewmode=flat&order=0#710057

You are right. I somehow added three zeros there. 600$ isn't much.
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #290 on: February 16, 2015, 11:12:09 PM »
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People pay a lot more than that for apple puters.

Yeah, but Apple make the hardware and own their own brand name.
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #291 on: February 16, 2015, 11:17:18 PM »
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I checked and my writing was "600.000 dollars".

Funny Europeans.  There'd be a lot less confusion if you guys used commas instead of periods, i.e., $600,000 as opposed to $600.000 (where that extra zero can be much more easily confused).  Of course I suppose a comma in the wrong place would still make it look like $60,000.  Ya just can't win, LOL.  :roflmao:
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #292 on: February 16, 2015, 11:17:41 PM »
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Yeah, but Apple make the hardware and own their own brand name.


Apple doesn't manufacture anything other than smoke and mirrors.  They get their hardware from the same Pacific Rim manufacturers as Dell, HP, etc...
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #293 on: February 16, 2015, 11:22:30 PM »
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I get that it seems odd, but clearly you don't have experience with this, or you would have known that it is a relatively frequent occurrence.


frequent occurrence? i try to work with people whom i can trust. or at least to calculate to what extent they are to be trusted. okay, oversights happen, but this is such an essential one that renders the whole service of that "3rd party" invaluable.

also, even if some court correspondence arrived too late to take opposing action, what about the cause of this all, which obviously must be a separately genuine issue. is there just another third party involved?
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #294 on: February 16, 2015, 11:26:43 PM »
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Apple doesn't manufacture anything other than smoke and mirrors.  They get their hardware from the same Pacific Rim manufacturers as Dell, HP, etc...


which is why i never buy anything apple save once a lcd display im actually using till today. still, apple customers get some work done with apple devices and are apparently satisfied. it cannot be compared to anything os4 offers, except one has really lost his mind in transfer.
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #295 on: February 16, 2015, 11:28:08 PM »
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Apple doesn't manufacture anything other than smoke and mirrors.  They get their hardware from the same Pacific Rim manufacturers as Dell, HP, etc...

Well, OK, sure, but they still own their own brand name. A-Eon uses the name AmigaOne. Isn't that enough? Why do we need to make expensive hardware even more expensive?
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #296 on: February 16, 2015, 11:37:36 PM »
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Seems silly but would you like links?   :)
my bluff has been called! :lol:

it's ok. i'll take your word for it, although if you have any examples handy, that'd be great. i honestly had a hard time believing people would be so childish as to drop something they liked because someone else said something they didn't like. oh well. to each their own.


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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #297 on: February 17, 2015, 12:27:01 AM »
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no.

no.

after the determined FUD campaign by a few folks around the forums, i'm not surprised. so let my try and help: hyperion is not genuinely bankrupt,


Yes. Yes they are.
All company officers are suspended and an Administrator has been appointed by the Belgian courts.

They Are Bankrupt: legally, factually, in a business sense: business operations are suspended and they have been declared bankrupt.

They are attempting to appeal against the ruling, we'll see how that goes.

Stop lying. Stop trying to warp reality: Hyperion are bankrupt. Any fool with an internet connection can prove it with current legal documents.

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but there was an initial decree due to a variety of circumstances (you can find the details from ben hermans over on AWN).

Dog ate homework... Lost in the post... Etc

Just the usual bullcrap from Ben.

Ask Amiga Inc how lenient the judge should be with regard to Hyperions failure to 'dot the i's' in time.

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they will be demonstrating solvency to the belgian courts to overturn the initial decree in the coming weeks.


No, that chance has passed, the ruling has been made, and they're now having to appeal against the ruling.

I doubt any judge will accept incompetent business admin (failing to collect post from their registered offices) as a reason to turn back time by anulling the previous ruling. And that's taking HyperionMP's word for it on all other counts.
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #298 on: February 17, 2015, 12:51:26 AM »
@Boot_WB

In you opinion would that make people claiming that Hyperion not being bankrupt be the ones spreading FUD? :)
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #299 on: February 17, 2015, 12:55:35 AM »
Well I guess it is time to sit at home and cry.  BooHoo, BooHoo.