A2000 A2091 AztecMonster-CF Not Detected

[anglosaxonusa]

I haven't had any luck installing an AztecMonster CF into an A2000 with a A2091 SCSI controller.  HDTools is not detecting the CF disk.  HDSetup reports that it is unable to format the CF disk when SCSI ID 6 is manually selected.

I've tried both 2G and 256M unformatted CF cards and neither were detected.  I'm using the AztecMonster's termination and not cable termination.

A2091 settings:

• A2091 ROM version: 6.6
• A2091 chipset version 33C93 revision 4
• A2091 jumper settings:

   JP1 (memory size): 2M
JP2 (autoboot): disabled
JP5 (options):   LUN enable: off
Time out length: off
AztecMonster CF settings:

• SCSI ID: 6
• Termination: on
• Power LED: lights up when A2000 is started

...the system freezes if the 2091's "autoboot" setting is set to "on".  I've left this setting off until Workbench is installed.

I can boot into Workbench using the 3.1 install disks.  Is there a DOS command I can use to test/verify the SCSI controller from Workbench?

Also, are there drivers that need to be installed for the A2091 which aren't included on the Workbench disks?  This may be the issue.  I bought the controller from AmiBay and it did not come with an install disk.

If drivers do need to be installed, is there a premade CF image available which includes the A2091 drivers?  Something like BetterWB or even ClassicWB would be great.  Assuming there is, how would one write the CF image to the CF card so that it would be bootable?  For example, I assume a UAE hardfile would need to be "imaged" to the CF disk somehow.  I'm using Linux, FYI.

Thanks in advance.


A2000 info:

Revision 6.2 motherboard
Kickstart ROM 3.1 version 40.63
DKB Megachip 2M chipram expansion
Indivision ECS
Picasso II RTG card

[danbeaver]

Interesting question because there could be so many answers.

Let's say that CF cards do not always "present" themselves as IDE drives and may say, "I'm used in a camera, or digital video recorder."  This is why there is the TrueIDE device by icomp.de; it says they are all IDE hard drives.  So try a few other CF cards or get one with WB 3.1 installed from Amigakit.

Now the hardware could be more up to date:

Your 6.6 ROM's are not the latest (Ver 7.0)
Your Western Digital controller is a Ver 4, not version 8, nor an AMD.

Finally, if you have version 3.1 Kickstart ROMs, you don't need a "driver" for the A2091.  I'm not sure about why it hangs with Autoboot on, I'd have to ask a few more questions.

As for the AztecMonster, you will have to wait for someone with experience with that to chime in.

[QuikSanz]

Main questions! Is said adapter SCSI or IDE? Is your bus IDE or SCSI? Need to be consistent here.

Chris

[danbeaver]

As the AztecMonster is an SCSI CF card adapter, I'm guessing that He is using SCSI on the A2091 SCSI card.

The Manual is a fun read:
"    [FONT="]STRATOS CF AztecMonster Use`s Manual[/FONT][/B]
  [FONT="]This card is suitable for converting CF memory card to Genaral 3.5inc SCSI[/FONT]
  [FONT="]interface.[/FONT]
  [FONT="]This is the precision part, so you should take carefully and must read this manual with good understanding, in order to use this card correctly.[/FONT]
  [FONT="]This is sensitive to static electricity. You must handle away from it. If you had a defactive card, we exchange it.[/FONT]
  [FONT="]Escape clause:[/FONT]
  [FONT="]
 [/FONT]
  [FONT="]
 [/FONT]    [FONT="]---Committing a mistake or  an irregular action.[/FONT]
  [FONT="]---Broken from disaster.[/FONT]
  [FONT="]---Dropping down or sinking under water.[/FONT]
  [FONT="]---Failure with misunderstanding this manual discription. If you have a question, please mail to us:support@artmix.com[/FONT]
 
  [FONT="]A Specific Limitation[/FONT]
  [FONT="]This item converts PIO-4, MultiWord mode 2, or UltrraDMA mode 2 CF memory card to SCSI-3 (upper compatible). The limitation of CF memory volume is 128GB. Type I/II memory card is adaptable. This is not available for Network card.[/FONT]
  [FONT="]This card does not have function of HOT SWAP; which of exchage for another card in turning on the power.[/FONT]
  [FONT="]For 2.5inc note SCSI (2mm pitch 50pin interface), you must select STRATOS CF PowerMonster. Assemble screws and nuts accorging to the picture #6. This card must be fixed by black screws. This card has two measures of hole position, for perpendicu-[/FONT]
  [FONT="]lar and horizontal position.[/FONT]
  [FONT="]
 [/FONT]  
 
  [FONT="]
 [/FONT]    
 
  [FONT="]
 [/FONT]    [FONT="]Jumper setting[/FONT]
  [FONT="]Jumper setting must be taken care of static electricity and be made sure of power shutting off.[/FONT]
  [FONT="]The function is the following:[/FONT]
  [FONT="]J4 jumper is SCSI ID and active terminater setting, refer to picture #2.[/FONT]
  [FONT="]J6 jumper is access LED. #1 pin is GND and #2 pin is LED anode. Connctor is[/FONT]
  [FONT="]JST PHR-2.[/FONT]
  [FONT="]J5 is general HDD power connector. #1pin is 12V, #2, 3 pin are GND, and #4[/FONT]
  [FONT="]5V. This card has no connection of #4pin 12V.[/FONT]
  [FONT="]J3 is general 50pins SCSI connector. The function is the pictire #3.[/FONT]
  [FONT="]J2 is CF memory card connector. CF card must slot right side up, polar key[/FONT]
  [FONT="]side is down. Do not insert wrong direction.[/FONT]
 
  [FONT="]About Mac OS[/FONT]
  [FONT="]Generally, Macintosh OS requires formatting software, FWB HDT, Silverlin- ing, or Drive7, to initialize 3rd party SCSI HD. (No available for Drive Setup by Apple Computer.) It is important that HD format has applicablity to Mac OS version.[/FONT]
  [FONT="]Caused by the specification of Mac OS, HDD volume may have limit, for example 2G limit on Mac OS 7.1 or 4G limit on Mac OS 7.5. In case, apply formatting software to partition drive. In detail, refer to the software manual.[/FONT]
 
  [FONT="]About MacPlus[/FONT]
  [FONT="]Mac Plus does not boot from this card normally. You must cut #40pin RST[/FONT]
  [FONT="]fuction from flat cable. CF card volume is recommended under 2GB.[/FONT]
 
  [FONT="]About AKAI sampler[/FONT]
  [FONT="]AKAI sampler, such as MPC60 w/SCSI interface, may behave unusally. It must cause of old SCSI interface chip. You should cancel active terminator of this card and add external terminator if you needed.[/FONT]
 
  [FONT="]2011 ARTMIX.COM rev. 1.3[/FONT]
 
 


  [FONT="]Poler Key[/FONT][/B]
 
  [FONT="]Picture 7 Slot CF Card[/FONT]
 
          [FONT="]Device[/FONT][/B]
         [FONT="]Type I/II CF memery [/FONT][FONT="]Card[/FONT]
             [FONT="]Host Interface[/FONT][/B]
         [FONT="]UltraSCSI-3[/FONT]
             [FONT="]Size w/o CF card[/FONT][/B]
         [FONT="]101 [/FONT][FONT="]X 76 X 11 mm[/FONT]
             [FONT="]Size w/CF Card[/FONT][/B]
         [FONT="]101 [/FONT][FONT="]X 88 X 11 mm[/FONT]
             [FONT="]Weight[/FONT][/B]
         [FONT="]50 [/FONT][FONT="]g (w/o   CF Card)[/FONT]
             [FONT="]Power Voltage[/FONT][/B]
         [FONT="]DC [/FONT][FONT="]5 V +/- 5%[/FONT]
             [FONT="]Power Carrent[/FONT][/B]
         [FONT="]300   mA (w/o CF [/FONT][FONT="]Card)[/FONT]
             [FONT="]Attachment[/FONT][/B]
         [FONT="]Cube   spacer [/FONT][FONT="]nuts[/FONT]
   [FONT="]3mm   screw, 2mm [/FONT][FONT="]Jumper[/FONT]
       

[FONT="]Picture 8 Specification"[/FONT]

[danbeaver]

The manual is at: http://www.artmix.com/pdffiles/CF_AZTECMONSTER_MN_E_13.pdf

All spelling is per the poor bastard who wrote it up.

Nota Bene: This is a SCSI-3 adapter card with a 50-pin SCSI (1/2) connector with "upper [byte?] compatible," so I have no idea what the engineers were thinking -- a 16-bit adapter connected with an 8-bit bus?  Why not just an SCSI-2 adapter, or a 68-pin SCSI-3 connector?  It does have "UltrraDMA!"  This must be like having an amplifier that you can turn up to 11.

[Epsilon_]

@anglosaxonusa

I hit the exact same problem as you trying to get the Aztecmonster scsi card working on the Amiga 2000 (and CDTV also). It is an awesome card and I really want to be able to use it like you also do!

You can see what I have tried on my blog entry if it is of interest...I would also be interested in a solution to this problem...

Link to my blog entry is here:

http://amigax1000.blogspot.com.au/2014/08/cdtv-installing-scsi-controller-and.html

Catcha,
Epsilon

[QuikSanz]

Hmm, Zorro2 bandwidth problem? Work on Zorro3 and accelerators? Curious.