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Re: A-EON Technology Acquires Personal Paint
« Reply #134 from previous page: November 29, 2014, 04:46:24 PM »
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We want to now push towards version 7.5 and onwards, so a few hundred hours development time, and the costs involved with that.  As a pure *estimate*, I would speculate if you can get around 180 potential MorphOS buyers, I think we can break even on such a project.
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Re: A-EON Technology Acquires Personal Paint
« Reply #135 on: November 29, 2014, 04:55:01 PM »
@Amigakit

Ok, that much? I would imagine a cross compiling project between AmigaOS 4 and MorphOS to be a lot simpler than that? Or am I wrong?
 

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Re: A-EON Technology Acquires Personal Paint
« Reply #136 on: November 29, 2014, 05:29:29 PM »
You would be surprised what a developer charges.  In the Amiga world, we get very low rates compared to other platforms, but it still adds up to a sizeable cost.  We don't want to charge a high ticket price for the software, so its a balance of number of users to retail price for the software.
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Re: A-EON Technology Acquires Personal Paint
« Reply #137 on: November 29, 2014, 05:32:15 PM »
I wish I could have access to Amistore to buy and download PPaint, but I've been waiting for Amigakit (or A-EON) to reset my non-working login credentials for ever now and no luck.:cry:
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Re: A-EON Technology Acquires Personal Paint
« Reply #138 on: November 29, 2014, 05:58:19 PM »
@WeiXing3D

You have got PMail!  You username and password work OK :)
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Re: A-EON Technology Acquires Personal Paint
« Reply #139 on: November 29, 2014, 05:59:30 PM »
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I wish I could have access to Amistore to buy and download PPaint, but I've been waiting for Amigakit (or A-EON) to reset my non-working login credentials for ever now and no luck.:cry:


Did you PM them.  I needed something resolved and after a few messages on AWN everything was sorted out very quickly.  A few hours tops.
 

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Re: A-EON Technology Acquires Personal Paint
« Reply #140 on: November 29, 2014, 06:27:35 PM »
@Amigakit

Are we talking of a conversion of the current version from AmigaOS 4 to MorphOS, or are we talking about the roadmap to 7.5 that requires 180 potential buyers?
 

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Re: A-EON Technology Acquires Personal Paint
« Reply #141 on: November 29, 2014, 06:31:27 PM »
Roadmap to 7.5 version initially, then beyond.  We want to keep all platforms in step with each other.  It is better for consistent marketing, packaging, CD/DVD duplication and support tasks.

Personally, as a Commodore Amiga 1200 fan and user every day, I don't want the Classic Amiga version left behind others, so taking one big step forward with all platforms is important.
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Re: A-EON Technology Acquires Personal Paint
« Reply #142 on: November 29, 2014, 06:58:20 PM »
@Amigakit

So 180 for future versions with cool, new features I take it? Sounds resonable :)
 

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Re: A-EON Technology Acquires Personal Paint
« Reply #143 on: November 29, 2014, 07:09:58 PM »
Yes and best of all, we can take feature requests across the platforms.
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Re: A-EON Technology Acquires Personal Paint
« Reply #144 on: November 29, 2014, 07:50:44 PM »
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Cool :) Did someone forget to activate this? Sounds like just the thing someone might overlook somehow.


More research in the code, reveals that my original assertion that it uses fastmem when using the CPU based blit lib was 100% true.

I can open a 1920x1080p image on a WinUAE setup with only AGA (ie no uaegfx based RTG) which is as close as I can get to my retired a1200.

Such an image uses 1.97MiB of mem, which allowing for workbench at 256 and ppaint screen itself clearly doesn't fit inside a 2Mb limit.

In fact I have 298,984 bytes left over.

However one issue I did see is that intially it throws up a requester saying insuffiecient Chip mem for the requested screen, this is because it tried to allocate a max overscan super hires laced 256 colour screen. It then fell back to a simply None Overscan Hires-Laced

Max overscan off 1472 x 566 = 833152 bytes so maybe a bit tight with the WB and any background images open at the same time.

Some fine tuning to predetermine the display mode in some future version might help with this. (if there isn't already an option I missed)

There may still be an issue with even larger images.

BTW which version were you using?
 

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Re: A-EON Technology Acquires Personal Paint
« Reply #145 on: November 29, 2014, 08:37:13 PM »
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When will A-EON stop shooting themselves in the foot? The correct way of handling this seems pretty obvious to most of us.


Care to elaborate on how further development of a great piece of software can possible be "shooting themselves in the foot"
 

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Re: A-EON Technology Acquires Personal Paint
« Reply #146 on: November 29, 2014, 08:51:24 PM »
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You would be surprised what a developer charges.  In the Amiga world, we get very low rates compared to other platforms, but it still adds up to a sizeable cost.  We don't want to charge a high ticket price for the software, so its a balance of number of users to retail price for the software.


Where I work we charge no less than 200 euros an hour, so development don't come cheap.
 

Offline pVC

Re: A-EON Technology Acquires Personal Paint
« Reply #147 on: November 29, 2014, 09:57:14 PM »
How about if we find a developer to do the port for free? :)

BTW. If I have PPaint 7.3 from Amiga Forever, can I get future updates of PPaint for free without buying next year's AF?
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Re: A-EON Technology Acquires Personal Paint
« Reply #148 on: November 29, 2014, 10:28:19 PM »
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How about if we find a developer to do the port for free? :)


er what if I arrange for someone to do your job for free? :-)

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BTW. If I have PPaint 7.3 from Amiga Forever, can I get future updates of PPaint for free without buying next year's AF?


7.2 comes with AF not 7.3
 

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Re: A-EON Technology Acquires Personal Paint
« Reply #149 on: November 29, 2014, 10:55:32 PM »
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er what if I arrange for someone to do your job for free? :-)

If I still get paid, bring it on! But anyway, I thought you don't have MorphOS machine and maybe not interest either.. I thought it'd be someone else to do that job.

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7.2 comes with AF not 7.3

So, can I get it updated to 7.3 and up?
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