A-EON Technology Acquires Personal Paint

[pVC]

er what if I arrange for someone to do your job for free? :-)

If I still get paid, bring it on! But anyway, I thought you don't have MorphOS machine and maybe not interest either.. I thought it'd be someone else to do that job.

7.2 comes with AF not 7.3

So, can I get it updated to 7.3 and up?

[broadblues]

If I still get paid, bring it on!

lol that defeats the point a little :-)

So, can I get it updated to 7.3 and up?

By buying it from AEon yes.

{edit}

You updated your comment. It may or may not be me that works on any update but whoever did so would have a fair amount of work on their hands.

I'm not prejudiced against MOS / AROS BTW AWeb was always cross platform (though itix did most of the coding for MOS I was always happy to intregrate it, and avoid breaking it)

[Yasu]

@Amigakit

Well, it will be very hard to get 180 pledges on MorphZone since a lot of users don't hang around there. But since there are some 2500+ licenses sold and counting and probably 800-1000 active users (rough estimate), selling 180 copies seems feesable.

It also depends of course what the price will be, and how much updates costs. The cheaper, the more buyers obviously.

[alphadec]

I have tried to keep quite!, but cant...

Why cant A-Eon create something that every amiga user wants. A classic amiga clone (fpga amiga) with up to date technology to bring it into the 2014 and beyond.

THAT is what we want.

[eliyahu]

I have tried to keep quite!, but cant...

Why cant A-Eon create something that every amiga user wants. A classic amiga clone (fpga amiga) with up to date technology to bring it into the 2014 and beyond.

THAT is what we want.

that is what you want. it is not what i want.

that said, i'd probably still buy one. :lol:

-- eliyahu

[Niding]

that is what you want. it is not what i want.

that said, i'd probably still buy one. :lol:

-- eliyahu

Indeed. Its defintly something I would buy ^^ (granted it was somewhat reasonably priced)

[amoskodare]

Why the hell must some people turn every good thing that happens to this community into some sort of "proof" that something evil is in the works ...

Let's face it guys, Amiga will never get a comeback. At this rate we will never be a viable commercial platform again. DESPITE THAT some people are actually investing time and money, even though it's pretty damn likely they will never see that money again and could have spent that time more productively someplace else.

Amiga, in all flavours, have been redused to a hobby OS. Nothing more, nothing less. With that in mind it makes more sense that some people want to invest money into this project anyway. They do it for fun, they do it for love and not to make any serious money out of it.

SO BACK OFF! When something good happens to our small (but obviously enternally angry) camp we should celibrate, not attack at the smallest of details.

You don't like that Personal Paint has been removed from Aminet? HUH? If you so desperately want it, just google it or go to piratebay, wait for it to be available for free again or ... I don't know, BUY IT now when it's actually being developed again.

I swear, Trevor and the guys must be real masochists if they have to get this kind of beating every god damn time thye do anything good and still come back for seconds.

Sorry 'bout the rant. I just got pissed off.

+1

Download working here too.. Not that I need it, I already got it

[alphadec]

Indeed. Its defintly something I would buy ^^ (granted it was somewhat reasonably priced)

Since I was forced away from my amiga in 1997-2000 and into a pc! where I have SPENT alot of cash on a pc priced from 1500-2000 US Dollars. So if someone made a classic amiga "clone" that is updated in hardware so it could be used to do what ever we do online, etc I would love to spend from 500 to 1000 or even more if it was a killer system.

[amigadave]

>I never asked him to leave the community, I don't see where you are  getting this idea from.

I got it from you when you wrote the statements below.

>...........Is it really so hard to see what's going on here!? They're wrecking not just the community and the file archives that the community has come to rely on. They are trying to gouge money out of users for ancient software. ..................... I wish they would leave our Amiga community alone and go sell crap to Mac users instead, ................... This is in addition to buying formerly independent sites and using them to censor discussion in the community, I haven't seen one action from them that could be described as a benefit to the Amiga community.

It's still available here: http://ftp://ftp.exotica.org.uk/mirrors/aminet/biz/cloan/PPaint.lha Get it while you can...

After writing all of the above and more, you claim that you haven't asked A-Eon to leave our community???

I think most people would disagree with your perception of what you have written and what you intentions really are.

[Minuous]

I did say I wished they would, not quite the same as asking them to, but I perhaps should have been clearer on that point. And it's only because they insist on inflicting this Apple-crap on us. AmiStore isn't something that was in any way necessary, and it has already resulted in files being removed without warning from OS4Depot and Aminet, I don't see how that is a good thing.

[spirantho]

I did say I wished they would, not quite the same as asking them to, but I perhaps should have been clearer on that point. And it's only because they insist on inflicting this Apple-crap on us. AmiStore isn't something that was in any way necessary, and it has already resulted in files being removed without warning from OS4Depot and Aminet, I don't see how that is a good thing.

It's a good thing because it results in updates of software, and even new software like Sketchblock.
Not only is that a Good Thing, it's THE thing that is most sorely missed by all Amiga-like OSes and is absolutely pivotal to the continued survival of thoses OSes.

It doesn't matter how good OS4, MorphOS or AROS are if the only serious software available for it is 15 year old abandoned applications on the Aminet, or ports of software on mainstream OSes that run much better on those original platforms because they have so much more resources (s.g. CPU cores).

A-Eon are focusing on what the Amiga (all flavours) needs most - new content. So far the only cost of that is that one bunch of tools is now about £4 (for about 10 programs - a lot of work, anyway), and another program has to be downloaded from A-Eon's website instead of the Aminet.

And still people rage and complain rather than congratulate them for doing something that benefits all of us.

[Linde]

And still people rage and complain rather than congratulate them for doing something that benefits all of us.

There is plenty of room for both. You should avoid mixing them up. Critique against trying to clean the freeware version off the internet is no the same as critique against the continued development of PPaint. In the same vein, praise for the continued development is not the same thing as praise for them asking for their files to be removed from Aminet.

So it is not very productive to think of A-EON/Cloanto as the worst thing that could happen to the Amiga, like some seem to do, and it is not very productive to tell the people who complain about the removal of the freeware version that they should shut up and stop complaining for reasons totally unrelated to the complaint.

[bloodline]

Legitimate question here, not flame bait or looking to start a discussion... Would a Mac port be out of the question? I seriously miss a decent pixel editor there and it would hugly increase the market, increasing funds available for further development on all supported platforms (of which the Amiga would be the biggest benefactor).

[som99]

Which versions can I still share on my Web server?

I currently have following 68K versions:
2.0, 2.1, 4.0, 6.0, 6.1, 6.3, 6.4, 7.0.

Am I allowed to share any of them?

I have password protected and modified the archive while waiting for answer.

http://www.som99.se/pp

[jj]

Legitimate question here, not flame bait or looking to start a discussion... Would a Mac port be out of the question? I seriously miss a decent pixel editor there and it would hugly increase the market, increasing funds available for further development on all supported platforms (of which the Amiga would be the biggest benefactor).

+1

[Niding]

There is plenty of room for both. You should avoid mixing them up. Critique against trying to clean the freeware version off the internet is no the same as critique against the continued development of PPaint. In the same vein, praise for the continued development is not the same thing as praise for them asking for their files to be removed from Aminet.

So it is not very productive to think of A-EON/Cloanto as the worst thing that could happen to the Amiga, like some seem to do, and it is not very productive to tell the people who complain about the removal of the freeware version that they should shut up and stop complaining for reasons totally unrelated to the complaint.

+1

Pretty much my view too.

Personally I dont mind the removal, but I can see that its preferable to have availablity on that library.
But the logical leap people make between removal and malicious intent is not very productive. I see from other forums that those (like me) that support AOS development supposedly hates other platforms (like AROS and MorphOS). Nothing can be futher from the truth.
Every leap forward for any OS, be it AOS, AROS, MorphOS etc is a good one, and I bow to the efforts of the developers.

So I think the majority of posters here that can be seen defending AeonKit, doesnt do it over a fundamentalistic view of the OS's. 99% of the time I use Windows 7 anyhow, and the only Amiga related stuff I got is a pimped up A1200+various Workbench versions plus AOS 4 Classic in emulation.
I just get a bit baffled over the negativity when people try to develop something, be it hardware and software.

What YOU said and the tone you said it in is quite productive, like Matt H and biggun.
Reasonable and calm expression of the reservations you got without the "mandatory" indignation over the destruction of the community.

Its a bit like Pascal getting flak from some over his IndieGoGo shop. He works hard to CREATE, and ofcourse some are trying their best to drag his motivation thru the mud.

But I guess its easier to tear down than to create.