A-EON Technology Acquires Personal Paint

[apa]

That makes me pretty angry,

Ok. Moderators. please moderate - Start a new thread or something for discussions like the one quoted. I guess most of us  wants to read about the new features of the new personal paint in this thread.  How, when, were. Not about personal feelings against company X or whatever else.

[Minuous]

Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't Aminet and it's mirrors for the benefit of the community?  Would there really be a need to host it elsewhere?

Recent events have shown that things can and do disappear from Aminet without warning...

[Niding]

Recent events have shown that things can and do disappear from Aminet without warning...

Which is a problem how?
If the removal is done by the owner/developer of said program, its really none of our buissniss.

I dont mind getting stuff for free, but Im not entitled to it.

[Yasu]

I'm gonna break the circle and ask:

What will it take to get a MorphOS native version? A pledge? A pre-order? I'm happy to do both

[apa]

Nothing wrong with amistore, but will it be available outside that too?( I'll support it anyway)..

[amigakit]

Yes it will be available on AmigaKit soon in a tangible (non-digital) form.

@Yasu

Why not raise a forum poll on MOS specific forums asking for pledges  If it works financially...

[Yasu]

@AmigaKit

Sure. But before that we kinda need to know what is financially viable to begin with. How much Euro would do?

[Thorham]

So much drama about something we don't own :rolleyes:

[Rob]

Recent events have shown that things can and do disappear from Aminet without warning...

Lots of software has disappeared from the Amiga scene over the years, both commercial and freeware.  Should we start hosting all software in other places just in case?  Would someone be justified in cracking MorphOS because Ralph might one day stop selling keys?

[F0LLETT]

So much drama about something we don't own :rolleyes:

+1

Lots of software has disappeared from the Amiga scene over the years, both commercial and freeware.  Should we start hosting all software in other places just in case?  Would someone be justified in cracking MorphOS because Ralph might one day stop selling keys?

People seem to forget that Cinemaware removed their games (without warning) they had free on their site for 5+ years.
Did I moan, nope. It was a case of oh well. Now they are selling updated games, wings and soon rocket ranger.

[Matt_H]

Well, I have a hard time to villify someone that takes the time to develop software (or in this case update), make it freely available for x years, and then removes it later on.
You make aminet sound like a eternal contract where you sign away the rights to your software.

Like I said earlier, if a developer wants to make a new version of their software a commercial product, that's fine and excellent and if it's a product I use I'll gladly buy it. Just don't pull the old version. True, uploading to Aminet doesn't strip developers of their rights from a legal standpoint, but the spirit of a software archive is a permanent home for gratis software.

As I said on AW.net;

So what entitles us to free stuff all the time?
I dont MIND getting free stuff, hell, I even appriciate it. But I dont feel entitled to it either.

It's not the "free stuff" aspect - after all, the old version appears to be available again if anyone needs it, and I'll put in an order for the new version as soon as it's for sale. It's the principle of permanence in a community software archive. Are A-EON/Cloanto within their legal rights to pull from Aminet? Sure, but I worry about the precedent this sets.

[kolla]

What on earth does "Totally integrated with the AmigaOS Workbench" imply?

Other than that, I have bunch loads of various versions of PPaint, but it never reached the level as DPaint, especially not for animation. I'm looking forward to using DPaint on FPGA Archade some day

Also, in my view AmiStore is a fad, will prob not be around for long, and also a very clumsy way of distributing software, while aminet clearly is not a fad and there are loads of software with aminet integration.

[pVC]

Sadly you are wrong, you assumed it would only be available via Amistore but its not. You can download from http://ppaint.amistore.net/. We should be happy there is a company willing to invest in anything Amiga related but all we do is complain and whine.... like always....

Yes, now we are wiser, but until this it was asked several times, but no clear answer was given. Only that same mantra of "our servers". I wouldn't wonder that it was public pressure which made this decision.

Seems I can download it now, but it's coming steady 8kB/s... I wonder if it's restricted speed.

I complain because this is a program which is good advertisement for our beloved platform. It's  been good for Amiga to have it freely from Aminet. I want it to be available for future users and future of Amiga. No personal reasons here.

[amigakit]

Wow!

We have had some really great emails and pmails over the last day- so thank you to everyone who passed on their congratulations and support messages.  It certainly inspires us to develop Personal Paint further for Classic Amiga and Next Generation Amiga.

Personally speaking, as a big enthusiast and daily user of my Commodore Amiga 1200, I am very pleased that there is so much public support for system still there  Exciting times ahead!

[Yasu]

@Amigakit

Great! Go for it! Now, regarding my question ...

[amigakit]

@Yasu

We want to now push towards version 7.5 and onwards, so a few hundred hours development time, and the costs involved with that.  As a pure *estimate*, I would speculate if you can get around 180 potential MorphOS buyers, I think we can break even on such a project.