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Halt and Catch Fire..
« on: July 13, 2014, 01:32:20 AM »
Anyone watch the show?  It seems ok, ha but I did notice a C1702 monitor being used, so cool!!

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Re: Halt and Catch Fire..
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2014, 01:42:40 AM »
I've been watching it.

Kinda neat to spot the old stuff.  A little anachronistic at times.  Thought I saw a RS Model 100 in there.
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Re: Halt and Catch Fire..
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2014, 01:52:02 AM »
I've been watching off and on. Tech is way background on the show, and the manufactured drama is thin. Kind of like listening to a bunch of computer wannabees throwing around a bunch of big words. But they're actors I can't expect much.

I've actually been watching more to catch all the AMC cars in the back ground. Check my avatar. :)  So far there's been Hornets, Gremlins, Spirits, and the two tone blue 1966 AMC wagon seen in the parking lot in the first two episodes belongs to a local friend.

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Re: Halt and Catch Fire..
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2014, 03:38:00 AM »
I'm really digging it.  We didn't get our first computer until 1984 (C=64) but I still remember a growing fascination with them.  I'd already been teaching myself BASIC by this point on paper and would try out little programs on floor models at stores when I got the chance, during '82 and '83.

I love the period aspect of it and a lot of the personalities and drama actually reminds me of what you find in Steven Levy's books, like Hackers.  Nothing seems manufactured at all.  You get strong, brilliant people together, pressure, money and big ideas and you've got yourself the exact recipe for drama.  This isn't the story of drones at desks punching a clock and going home.

For this to actually be successful it's got to be about the human story first and foremost (like good scifi too).  I like that it offers multiple characters that don't fit the stereotype that Cameron's roommates and Gordon fall into.  If it was only that I'm sure there are some people who would still enjoy it, who identify with those characters, but "normals" would have nothing to stay interested.  A show about the tech means you have no show.  That's appropriate for a cold and factual documentary, for Discovery or PBS.  

They're being as careful as they can to be period specific with the tech.  A lot of it is donated or what they can find online.  A lot of it apparently doesn't work anymore, which is understandable (they're hand-feeding pre-printed paper quite often through printers).  But they're about a year behind on the machine they're designing, as it turns out.  The Grid Compass came out in 1982 and was designed in 1979.  It was a magnesium bodied clamshell with a flat display.  But it cost $10K, ran a proprietary OS and most were sold to the US government for NASA and Special Forces applications.

@Plaz, when I was little, my dad drove a red, Craig Breedlove special edition AMX.


edit: the last episode of the season is titled 1984.  I have a sneaking suspicion they're going to see a certain Super Bowl ad that's going to change everything.
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Re: Halt and Catch Fire..
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2014, 03:55:55 AM »
The AMX/Javelin is one of my favorite old cars. The Gremlin is probably the first 2 door hatchback wagons ever, too bad it looked like a tennis shoe.

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Re: Halt and Catch Fire..
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2014, 04:09:54 AM »
Hopefully we don't get any Matadors in there, lol.  There was one in my neighborhood when I was in high school that sat in the same spot for years.  Hideous car, lol.

I wouldn't mind seeing a Rebel though.  Seriously strong looking cars.
 

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Re: Halt and Catch Fire..
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2014, 04:26:38 AM »
Eagles were slightly ahead of their time also. AWD when Subaru had only option on some models.
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Re: Halt and Catch Fire..
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2014, 04:37:28 AM »
The guy that sold Gordon an empty box, that was a red Eagle, wasn't it?!  My mom had a brown one for a while.  I always liked the way they looked but that thing was, mechanically, a pile, what I remember.

edit: Just like IMDB for actors and directors and people working on and appearing in movies and television, there's a website dedicated to cars appearing in movies and television called the IMCDB, or Internet Movie Car DataBase:

http://www.imcdb.org/movie.php?id=2543312
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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2014, 04:56:26 AM »
Have a Subaru WRX now, most fun since Disneyland.
 

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Re: Halt and Catch Fire..
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2014, 07:34:11 AM »
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We didn't get our first computer until 1984 (C=64)

This week's episode had a C64.

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when I was little, my dad drove a red, Craig Breedlove special edition AMX.

Ha, very cool. Those guys are starting to be worth some bucks. I bought an old used Javelin right out of high school. All these years later I'm restoring another one. Lots of work to go. Funny I have to come to a computer board to find some AMC familiarity. Other car guys don't know as much. lol

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The guy that sold Gordon an empty box, that was a red Eagle

I'd have to go back and look closer but it was either an Eagle or Concord (which looked very similar to the Eagle).
 
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I have a sneaking suspicion they're going to see a certain Super Bowl ad that's going to change everything.

Good call.  I remember the apple ad and going.... what? Then watched everyone I knew continue to buy clones and Commodores. Actually in this weeks episode I felt like I was watching them try to invent the ipod decades early before they could even ship their first clone. Didn't feel believable at all. And what?.... not a phone modem in the entire building... come on....  :)

The show was quirky and interesting (technical, no) for the first few episodes, but they've about lost me.

Plaz
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Re: Halt and Catch Fire..
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2014, 04:03:30 PM »
Quote from: Plaz;768838
I've been watching off and on. Tech is way background on the show, and the manufactured drama is thin. Kind of like listening to a bunch of computer wannabees throwing around a bunch of big words. But they're actors I can't expect much.

I've actually been watching more to catch all the AMC cars in the back ground. Check my avatar. :)  So far there's been Hornets, Gremlins, Spirits, and the two tone blue 1966 AMC wagon seen in the parking lot in the first two episodes belongs to a local friend.

Plaz


Plaz,

Ha same here looking out for the cool cars.. like the Porsche944.. and the lime green Datsun280zx they smashed up :(.  I had two of those cars not that color though.

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Re: Halt and Catch Fire..
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2014, 05:17:03 PM »
lol, old Datsun, I still have a 70 Datsun 1600 P/U, runs great but sitting as I have no place to keep it right now.
 

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Re: Halt and Catch Fire..
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2014, 07:15:35 PM »
They're using an '87 944 in place of having an '82 or '83.  I had an '88 944S for a while.  Loved driving it.  I made the mistake of getting the "S" model though as the engines were bunk from a maintenance standpoint with several fatal design flaws.  I bought it for a tick under $5K and ended up putting over $9K into the engine, trying to keep it running, because parts and labor were just outrageous, and there was only one or two guys in all of Los Angeles qualified anymore to work on water-cooled Porsche.

I don't get your comment regarding the iPod, Plaz.  The episode was about Cameron wanting to give the machine a "soul".  All I could think when she's coding in the conversational interface was she's putting an ELIZA wrapper on DOS (if it extends beyond the ZORK-like simple commands).  

Where do you get iPod?

Anyway, yeah, the cooler AMC stuff doesn't really command much yet.  I've seen a couple come across the block on the Mecum auctions on Velocity and they don't bring near the money as even hideous flavors of Chevelle or, worse, I'm seeing a trend of post '72 cars come through with absolute trash for engines and performance and they're getting some really money.  I'm not a fan of the Javelin but the AMX and the Rebel are sweet and they go for a song compared to someone looking to get into a Mustang or Camaro, while being more rare than either.

That wagon though, your friend's, is it the one with the Crager style mag wheels?
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Re: Halt and Catch Fire..
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2014, 01:24:24 AM »
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They're using an '87 944 in place of having an '82 or '83.  I had an '88 944S for a while.  Loved driving it.  I made the mistake of getting the "S" model though as the engines were bunk from a maintenance standpoint with several fatal design flaws.  I bought it for a tick under $5K and ended up putting over $9K into the engine, trying to keep it running, because parts and labor were just outrageous, and there was only one or two guys in all of Los Angeles qualified anymore to work on water-cooled Porsche.

I don't get your comment regarding the iPod, Plaz.  The episode was about Cameron wanting to give the machine a "soul".  All I could think when she's coding in the conversational interface was she's putting an ELIZA wrapper on DOS (if it extends beyond the ZORK-like simple commands).  

Where do you get iPod?

Anyway, yeah, the cooler AMC stuff doesn't really command much yet.  I've seen a couple come across the block on the Mecum auctions on Velocity and they don't bring near the money as even hideous flavors of Chevelle or, worse, I'm seeing a trend of post '72 cars come through with absolute trash for engines and performance and they're getting some really money.  I'm not a fan of the Javelin but the AMX and the Rebel are sweet and they go for a song compared to someone looking to get into a Mustang or Camaro, while being more rare than either.

That wagon though, your friend's, is it the one with the Crager style mag wheels?


Ah good eye.. I did not notice the dash shot..gotta go back and see.. Should have gone for the S2 model, best of the breed.  Almost bought an S2 long time back :-).  Still might.

Rich

Could be a 1985.5..tis when they changed the dash.
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Re: Halt and Catch Fire..
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2014, 04:31:26 AM »
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I don't get your comment regarding the iPod


Ipod kind of a generic reference. Their marketing was one of the first I can recall tying in to personalizing your hardware. What I'm stuck on is the technical bit where they have yet to ship a functional clone, it's on the verge of completions, but wait... "it needs a soul".  In the PC biz since 1984, I can't recall anyone caring if their machine had a soul, or if it was even the least bit personalized. (well maybe some stickers on the monitor). It was all about more apps, more memory, faster clocks and better colors/resolutions.

Besides, early 80's a computer with a soul was baaad. WarGames anyone? "Do you want to play a game".  "Open the pod bay doors HAL".  :)

Plaz