Natami started and stopped again

[ElPolloDiabl]

Dear Moderator,

This thread should be moved to CH. It has gone a little off-topic.
Anyone else agree?

[OlafS3]

Dear Moderator,

This thread should be moved to CH. It has gone a little off-topic.
Anyone else agree?

No

[alphadec]

It was more than one or two.  I balked too when I found out the NatAmi MX might cost as much as a SAM.  That said, I've learned second-hand that Thomas Hirsch is still working on a new NatAmi.

That is incredible news I am willing to wait to see what he can come up with.

When comes to price I is willing to pay as much as a playstation 4 or good tv for fpga (natami like board). so in the price range 1000-2000 USD.

[wawrzon]

That is incredible news I am willing to wait to see what he can come up with.

When comes to price I is willing to pay as much as a playstation 4 or good tv for fpga (natami like board). so in the price range 1000-2000 USD.

but im not sure he is really about to be marketing this. i think the natami case should be treated as closed for good.

[alphadec]

but im not sure he is really about to be marketing this. i think the natami case should be treated as closed for good.

hope he makes it a consumer product.

[wawrzon]

hope he makes it a consumer product.

ok, but "hoping" is exactly what i would avoid. it leads to expectations that may not be in accordance with what the project is intended to be. thats what likely happened to natami, and why the project has been removed from the spotlight again. if thomas did it, he did it for a reason, he obviously doesnt want the people to put their hopes in him and his project and prefers to be left in peace.

[OlafS3]

hope he makes it a consumer product.

I am not sure if he wanted it in public now at all. No speculations please, Thomas will announce something (or not) if he wants that.

[alphadec]

I am not sure if he wanted it in public now at all. No speculations please, Thomas will announce something (or not) if he wants that.

Why isnt natami.net removed or updated with the information so people like me can stop hoping that something will happen to it. ?

[OlafS3]

Why isnt natami.net removed or updated with the information so people like me can stop hoping that something will happen to it. ?

I am not the moderator there and not a member anymore there too so do not ask me. The accellerators based on FPGA Cyclone 5 are promised for the near future, everything else is in dark so to say :-)

[fishy_fiz]

The idea that linux is an option is ridiculous.
Yes it serves its purpose, but that purpose in no way shape or form scratches an amiga itch.
MorphOS is a much better option, and worth the money if you enjoy amiga paradigms in your OS (as is AROS or OS4).

A thousand bananas for $1 isnt as interesting as 50 oranges for $10 if a person dislikes bananas and enjoys oranges.  That's just the way it is.

[OlafS3]

The idea that linux is an option is ridiculous.
Yes it serves its purpose, but that purpose in no way shape or form scratches an amiga itch.
MorphOS is a much better option, and worth the money if you enjoy amiga paradigms in your OS (as is AROS or OS4).

A thousand bananas for $1 isnt as interesting as 50 oranges for $10 if a person dislikes bananas and enjoys oranges.  That's just the way it is.

I think he meant that different... for modern software he uses Linux, for the rest 68k and he sees no sense in a modernized NG OS (AmigaOS/MorphOS) that runs on obscure hardware and has no software. He did not say Linux is AmigaOS.

[fishy_fiz]

Yeah, I get that, Im just saying its moot.
Things only have value to people that are interested in them.
To an amiga os (or related) fan Linux' being free has no baring on the value of amiga related system, ergo questioning MorphOS' value because of what hardware and/or software is available to Linux is ridiculous.

[OlafS3]

Yeah, I get that, Im just saying its moot.
Things only have value to people that are interested in them.
To an amiga os (or related) fan Linux' being free has no baring on the value of amiga related system, ergo questioning MorphOS' value because of what hardware and/or software is available to Linux is ridiculous.

I do not care. Who wants to use MorphOS (or AmigaOS and AROS X86/ARM and so on) should do that. I am not interested in it (only in 68k including Aros 68k)

[wawrzon]

i think thomas has just explained which are his personal interests in amiga and which are not. i think his standpoint is very reasonable and does not depreciate personal sentiments or choices, it explains why he does not develop for os4 anymore while he supports the amiga user community within limits.

[fishy_fiz]

For the record Im not even a MorphOS user. My interest is mostly 68k, and to a lesser extent x86 AROS, but that doesnt make my comments any less valid.
A person pays what they think something is worth. Its completely moot how much another system costs, what hardware it runs on or what software it has if its of no interest.

Ironically the fact that Linux and its distros are predominantely free speaks volumes

Now in regards toMorphOS updates (cant recall who mentioned it), its a bit of an imaginitive stretch isnt it?
Is it free to update from MOS 1.x to 3.6? That'd be the more accurate parallel with Windows updates.
WinXP updates were free for over 10 years. Vista updates have been free for about 7 years, Win7 updates free since its release and so on.

Also, and again a different point that was touched on in this thread, but Im really not surprised there's been no interest in aros for x1000. AROS already runs on hardware 5x as powerful for %10 of the price .

[wrath of khan]

So Natami.net has disappeared. No great loss imo, too much hot air is bad for the ozone layer...:laugh1:

Still; I guess this means that everyone involved gave up waiting for Thomas's new Amiga system; as implied by the new name and new website banners that appeared on natami.net about 6 months ago? Or should we expect a new website?

At this point I am waiting to see if Gunnar can pull off the apollo board for my a500; if not then no biggie; something else will materialise sooner or later. At least gunnars board looks close to being ready and I hope he can do it.