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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #59 on: February 24, 2014, 04:00:07 PM »
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It's Amigo OS. male.  Amiga OS is female.  Maybe they should get together and produce some offspring.


If we transition to Italian, we could call the result BambinOS. :)
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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #60 on: February 24, 2014, 04:03:23 PM »
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If we transition to Italian, we could call the result BambinOS. :)


nickname "Bambini" :-)
 

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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #61 on: February 24, 2014, 04:04:45 PM »
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Wasn't it CommodoreUSA who was after people using the amiga name?
I seem to remember the Daddy being told to remove any reference to amiga in, at least, one video.
And didn't Aros change the meaning of aros before they were told to?

Yes, they did that to Daddy. Big holders of no name.

AROS ditched from Amiga Research to just AROS to avoid such assess.
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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #62 on: February 24, 2014, 04:13:48 PM »
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Yes, they did that to Daddy. Big holders of no name.

AROS ditched from Amiga Research to just AROS to avoid such assess.

they did that on the base of a contract with this one-person company. But also Hyperion has threatened in the past so both Hyperion and AmigaInc. defend the "Amiga trademark" and try to hinder other persons/companies to use it. But in the end the trademark will not decide the faith.
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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #63 on: February 24, 2014, 04:42:04 PM »
The worse part is, the ones who 'own' the Amiga trademark are the ones that have the least amount of hardware their Operating System can run on.

AROS obviously runs on the most,
MorphOS the second most,
68k Classics arguably have more hardware available than OS4 does!

It's too bad that all camps just can't get along and try to bring the Amiga back a bit more to the mainstream, but I don't think that could ever happen now, the best chance it had was probably when Gateway had it, but I don't even know if Gateway computers are even around anymore...

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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #64 on: February 24, 2014, 04:45:26 PM »
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The worse part is, the ones who 'own' the Amiga trademark are the ones that have the least amount of hardware their Operating System can run on.

AROS obviously runs on the most,
MorphOS the second most,
68k Classics arguably have more hardware available than OS4 does!

It's too bad that all camps just can't get along and try to bring the Amiga back a bit more to the mainstream, but I don't think that could ever happen now, the best chance it had was probably when Gateway had it, but I don't even know if Gateway computers are even around anymore...

slaapliedje


I wrote that I would prefer that too (that it can be used by all camps) but that will not happen because the status quo is preferred by both AmigaInc and Hyperion compared to all camps using the trademark.
 

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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #65 on: February 24, 2014, 04:55:16 PM »
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The worse part is, the ones who 'own' the Amiga trademark are the ones that have the least amount of hardware their Operating System can run on.

AROS obviously runs on the most,
MorphOS the second most,
68k Classics arguably have more hardware available than OS4 does!

It's too bad that all camps just can't get along and try to bring the Amiga back a bit more to the mainstream, but I don't think that could ever happen now, the best chance it had was probably when Gateway had it, but I don't even know if Gateway computers are even around anymore...

slaapliedje



The problem is often with the words chosen to express the facts. We hear "rights" not "IP Owner"

worth a look as an example

You could ask old timers what their read is concerning ACER I guess.

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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #66 on: February 24, 2014, 05:33:56 PM »
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they did that on the base of a contract with this one-person company. But also Hyperion has threatened in the past so both Hyperion and AmigaInc. defend the "Amiga trademark" and try to hinder other persons/companies to use it. But in the end the trademark will not decide the faith.


And it was Hyperion that sent a nastygram about any licensed Amiga system by C=USA that had a clone of OS4 on it would violate their agreement with AI.
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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #67 on: February 24, 2014, 06:38:27 PM »
Well I do think it is fairly obvious that different OS's can't have the same name.

And also, after the long legal battle Hyperion had, and all the money used on it, they should defend their rights. If not,  it would have been a waste of time and money.

Obviously they do defend it, if not, a guy like Black Lab Linux could have kept using the amiga name. Thankfully that was stopped.
 

Offline wawrzon

Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #68 on: February 24, 2014, 06:44:22 PM »
one way or the other im not sure if x86 with aros being an official amiga lineup would have satisfied the most of existing user base [of amiga(-noid) ng alternatives]. especially, it seems most (beyond occasional) users i hear of gather on mos rather than os4 or aros side.

one thing i just wonder is that, being well informed, remembering and apparently rather un-biased,  number6 had need an amigaone system donated to take part of amiga forums again. pure sentiment?
 

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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #69 on: February 24, 2014, 06:58:49 PM »
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Well I do think it is fairly obvious that different OS's can't have the same name.

at least me, i dont care..
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And also, after the long legal battle Hyperion had, and all the money used on it, they should defend their rights. If not,  it would have been a waste of time and money.

their own damn business. any of us have sure seen stranger than having a full ip at disposal, going open and that for a good reason. im not trying to tell that this strategy should be applied, no matter what. still, im not sure what is the current gain except on running (apparently) occasional hardware sales.
 
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Obviously they do defend it, if not, a guy like Black Lab Linux could have kept using the amiga name. Thankfully that was stopped.

as if it was any worse, the way its now. and also, the guy does still pop up now and then. if the trademark has ever been violated for good, maybe the dumb discussion about legitimacy would have effectively _stopped_ in the end, giving way for something not as legitimate but future proof, for those who want it. alas, it takes some mind to realize..
 

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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #70 on: February 24, 2014, 07:37:30 PM »
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at least me, i dont care..

Maybe you don't, but it would be rather confusing having different OS's like Linux distros and what no, all named amigaos, but with no other similarity.

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as if it was any worse, the way its now. and also, the guy does still pop up now and then. if the trademark has ever been violated for good, maybe the dumb discussion about legitimacy would have effectively _stopped_ in the end, giving way for something not as legitimate but future proof, for those who want it. alas, it takes some mind to realize..
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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #71 on: February 24, 2014, 07:38:07 PM »
http://www.os4online.com/
 
When was that stopped? They are still calling their linux distro os4.X
 

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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #72 on: February 24, 2014, 07:46:42 PM »
Sorry they call  it os4 : openlinux.
 

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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #73 on: February 24, 2014, 07:49:27 PM »
At least here in germany,  "Amiga OS"  is a valid trademark. Date of expiration is Nov-31-2015.
Registered owner: Amiga Inc. NY, N.Y.
Registered to everything from paper press media to development of hardware and software, computers, calculators, modems, etc.

Amiga as trademark has expired.
Amiga as pictured text is registered. Looks like in attached file.


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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #74 from previous page: February 24, 2014, 07:49:53 PM »
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Sorry they call  it os4 : openlinux.



He posted in the forum off the amiga.org front page today, as per how amiga.org wishes to treat such topics.

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