AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)

[nicholas]

That would be funny.  What would be even funnier is if someone actually produced the original Gateway Amino contract.   We might find out that Amino never OWNED the Amiga name and it was merely a nontransferable exclusive license.  I wonder where that would leave Aeon and Hyperion?

That would be hilarious!

I'd pay good money to see Herman's face when that happens.

[Kremlar]

You might want to read again what I actually wrote. I have not been recommending any mainboards that are four times as expensive as comparable consumer mainboards.

 
 Oh.  Perhaps someone hacked your account:
 
 

Prices in the UK tend to be a bit higher than on the European mainland but you can definitely find much better pricing for long-term available mainboards.

Since I mentioned Kontron, here is an example:
http://www.dpieshop.com/kontron-ktq87mitx-industrial-miniitx-intel-core-i3-i5-i7-socket-lga1150-motherboard-p-1281.html

230 GBP (incl. VAT) - This price is for single unit purchases! And this is certainly not the lowest price I have seen.

 
 
 

If the goal is to minimize development work by supporting as few mainboards as possible for as long as possible, which is what Amikit hinted at, you can either port your OS to a long-term available mainboard or you can build up a relatively huge inventory of a particular consumer mainboard with a shorter product life. I have stated my preference regarding the former which was in no way an endorsement of any specific mainboard.

And again the former makes no sense when the price is so high.  If it was $10 more?  Sure.  Quadruple+ the price?  No.
 
 It makes much more business sense to keep some reasonably priced boards on-hand at EOL rather than pay extremely high prices for some vertical market mainboard manufactured by a relatively unknown vendor.

[Terminills]

 
 It makes much more business sense to keep some reasonably priced boards on-hand at EOL rather than pay extremely high prices for some vertical market mainboard manufactured by a relatively unknown vendor.

Kontron has been around for years.  However Zotac would be preferable since they seem to have crossed over into the consumer market.

[Kremlar]

Kontron has been around for years. However Zotac would be preferable since they seem to have crossed over into the consumer market.

Not saying they haven't been, but relative to other vendors in the top tier consumer board market they are unknown.
 
 They are not an ideal vendor to source a motherboard from when building a consumer system for a highly cost-conscious market.

[Iggy]

Kontron has been around for years.  However Zotac would be preferable since they seem to have crossed over into the consumer market.

Only if you are really into things that break.
Zotac reliability is horrible.

[Andre.Siegel]

Oh.  Perhaps someone hacked your account:

Once again, you might want to read what I wrote a fourth and fifth time.

Out of curiosity, spirantho looked up prices for Kontron mainboards in his home country and shared his findings regarding the cheapest offer he could find. I found an offer for a Kontron mainboard in his country that was 80 USD cheaper and specifically mentioned that prices in the UK tend to be higher and that I have seen lower prices elsewhere.

In what strange universe does this constitute a "recommendation" for any specific mainboard?

 

It makes much more business sense to keep some reasonably priced boards on-hand at EOL rather than pay extremely high prices for some vertical market mainboard manufactured by a relatively unknown vendor.

For the second time, Kontron were mentioned because of the unusual 7 years long product life cycle which was in response to claims that x86 mainboards have extremely short product lifes.

If you need me to repeat it a third time, please let me know and I will gladly do so.

[Iggy]

That would be funny.  What would be even funnier is if someone actually produced the original Gateway Amino contract.   We might find out that Amino never OWNED the Amiga name and it was merely a nontransferable exclusive license.  I wonder where that would leave Aeon and Hyperion?

Something like that may very well have been used by Hyperion to secure its settlement with Amiga Inc.

[Iggy]

you perhaps missed out that im considerd the anti so4, hyperion and aeon troll around remaining amiga forums. i said things like you over and over for years and years. did it change anything? no. does it mean that i accept this? no. i have even supported aros even though being actual amiga user im not much interrested in neither x86 nor ppc hardware in this case. tbh im a little tired of this all, ive probably only jumped on this thread, because as factual amiga fan to this day i dont like to be called a "wacko" by people who cant talk me into some amiga derived system, whatever it is.

Nobody said that was the reason you're a wacko.:destroy:

[Djole]

x1000 is not expensive, other hardware is just too cheap. If you convert hw prices from 80s i guess the value is about the same....

[Kremlar]

Once again, you might want to read what I wrote a fourth and fifth time.

Out of curiosity, spirantho looked up prices for Kontron mainboards in his home country and shared his findings regarding the cheapest offer he could find. I found an offer for a Kontron mainboard in his country that was 80 USD cheaper and specifically mentioned that prices in the UK tend to be higher and that I have seen lower prices elsewhere.

In what strange universe does this constitute a "recommendation" for any specific mainboard?



For the second time, Kontron were mentioned because of the unusual 7 years long product life cycle which was in response to claims that x86 mainboards have extremely short product lifes.

If you need me to repeat it a third time, please let me know and I will gladly do so.

 Are you a politician by chance?

[Iggy]

Are you a politician by chance?

Worse, he is a moderator.
And a blue one at that.

[haywirepc]

Nice but 10+ years too late. My phone is faster than this garbage they are selling and 5+ times the price of kickass modern hardware.

Just an observation... BUT

Look on ebay for xenon workstations.  You can get a dual cpu 4 core xenon
workstation used for 5x cheaper than this things price.

Just saying... 8 cores and 8 gigs of ram for the so much less than the price of this.

Amiga grave robbers take notice.

Back in the day, I could get a used 25mhz 486 sx for the price of a new amiga 500 which in comparison was underpowered but not really. Why? Because the amiga 500 at 8mhz could outperform that 486 25mhz machine as far as graphics, sound and more were concerned...

Not so today...

The current offerings can not stay the same, so underpowered and a 10 + year behind os means you can not justify the difference in price.

They need to offer some kind of value or reason to justify the lack in power
and capabilities for the price. So far, total failure at that. Amiga os4.x is a
total joke. If they had cheap hardware like the raspberry pi maybe it would
be okay but otherwise hell no to this slow one core joke where the only good software is linux ports I can already run for free on x86.

[yssing]

How can ppl comment on the price and performance, since the final price has not been set yet?
And performance, well for obvious reasons, there have been no benchmarks yet.

And why this need to constantly hammer amiga os4 and the hardware for it?

[Bodie]

Look on ebay for xenon workstations.  You can get a dual cpu 4 core xenon
workstation used for 5x cheaper than this things price.

Xenon cpu?

[WolfToTheMoon]

How can ppl comment on the price and performance, since the final price has not been set yet?

Trevor has already hinted that the price of the X5000 will not be significantly cheaper than X1000.

And performance, well for obvious reasons, there have been no benchmarks yet.

Freescale performance figures are available for these CPUs.

[Djole]

I read a lot of comments here with the phrases they need to do this or they need to do  that. They dont need to do anything, they can do whatever they want and make whatever  hw they want and sell at any price they want. Dont like it ? Dont buy it...