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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #44 on: January 03, 2014, 04:16:27 PM »
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He has no chance because it would be prohibitively expensive for him to go to court in the UK, or anywhere else in the EU.


Not as expensive as X1000 and likely to win. :destroy:
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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #45 on: January 03, 2014, 04:17:18 PM »
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I think that too (that they are more concentrating on Cyrrus than on update for the existing users) because they can there sell more (or propably more easily) new licenses for Cyrrus based on Update 6 than finishing 4.2. first (with adding Gallium/SMP what propably is a lot more difficult to add than writing some drivers for a new hardware). I think I can remember Solie somewhere (I believe Q&A session) mentioning Update 7.

But even if... noone guaranteed SMP and Gallium, propably not even 4.2. update. Perhaps a X1000 owner can correct me there and say if it is mentioned somewhere in the contract. If not it is not in and Vox has no chance when he goes to court because of it.


So I say they have left all X1000 users behind. I am designing a class suit that all X1000 users can join.
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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #46 on: January 03, 2014, 04:22:52 PM »
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Not as expensive as X1000 and likely to win. :destroy:


Are you sure about that? ;)
I'm not talking about chances to win, but lawyer fees etc...

You would be best to simply sell your X1000 to recoup the costs.
 

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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #47 on: January 03, 2014, 04:23:25 PM »
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So I say they have left all X1000 users behind. I am designing a class suit that all X1000 users can join.

No X1000 owner will join you, that's the problem.
 

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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #48 on: January 03, 2014, 04:24:43 PM »
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So I say they have left all X1000 users behind. I am designing a class suit that all X1000 users can join.


You forgot the second part of my posting. Something that is not in a contract is not in. You can only sue them for things that were in contract but not delivered. You propably buyed it from Amigakit. After ordering and payment they should have sent you a contract (or similar) where all was in what you bought and paid. No mentioning of something means not in contract and not in contract means you cannot sue them for it.
 

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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #49 on: January 03, 2014, 04:27:04 PM »
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Are you sure about that? ;)
I'm not talking about chances to win, but lawyer fees etc...

You would be best to simply sell your X1000 to recoup the costs.


+1

Sell the X1000, pay back most of your debts and buy something based on MorphOS or AROS or one of the cheaper AmigaOS solutions.
 

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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #50 on: January 03, 2014, 04:41:35 PM »
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You forgot the second part of my posting. Something that is not in a contract is not in. You can only sue them for things that were in contract but not delivered. You propably buyed it from Amigakit. After ordering and payment they should have sent you a contract (or similar) where all was in what you bought and paid. No mentioning of something means not in contract and not in contract means you cannot sue them for it.

Thanks for another tip. They haven`t. Another breach.

Plus all in one sue vs Hyperion for blocking updates and support and censorship,
and AW.net will be included too ... So it might be a major battle.

Plus not fullfling user request to transfer linceses and accounts ...

Growing by the fools game.

In the end I might be handing over PPC Macs with MOS for free :-)

Again, whatever CONTRACT is, it cannot surpass overall EU/UK consumer rights.
If its lower then minimum, its illegal.
« Last Edit: January 03, 2014, 04:44:17 PM by vox »
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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #51 on: January 03, 2014, 04:46:20 PM »
they have not sent some sort of order confirmation after ordering? And there should be a receipt with everything in and some sort of terms and conditions. Nothing? That is how I know it here when buying something online.

And when you buy something by Fax or Telephone you normally get a order confirmation too and then a receipt where all is in what you bought (included in the delivery).
« Last Edit: January 03, 2014, 04:52:40 PM by OlafS3 »
 

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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #52 on: January 03, 2014, 04:47:03 PM »
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Thanks for another tip. They haven`t. Another breach.

Plus all in one sue vs Hyperion for blocking updates and support and censorship,
and AW.net will be included too ... So it might be a major battle.

Plus not fullfling user request to transfer linceses and accounts ...

Growing by the fools game.

In the end I might be handing over PPC Macs with MOS for free :-)

Again, whatever CONTRACT is, it cannot surpass overall EU/UK consumer rights.
If its lower then minimum, its illegal.


So you will sue afterall? I'm asking because you said you wouldn't just a few days ago...
 

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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #53 on: January 03, 2014, 05:18:40 PM »
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True dat. I did knew everything but they were crazy n lazy ...

So, I am gonna go MorphOS now.

Caant stop it, seen?

Normally...I would encourage anyone to consider this...but...hmm...
Vox, not to appear to attack that tactics you have used, but are you sure you want to throw in with us?
We tend not to be that contentious.
Development is slow, but steady, and I'm not sure we even care about impressing the general Amiga community anymore.

Also, we have our own issues (wifi being one of them).
Also, as our developers are not significantly compensated, we tend not to abuse them.

In fact, I'd consider a few to be friends.

So, if you can avoid the current level of contention, jump in.
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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #54 on: January 03, 2014, 05:44:26 PM »
@Vox

You would be much happier with Aros or Aeros.  Hardware is more abundant and cheaper and the OS is free . . . :-)
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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #55 on: January 03, 2014, 05:49:36 PM »
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@Vox

You would be much happier with Aros or Aeros.  Hardware is more abundant and cheaper and the OS is free . . . :-)



No he really should use Morphos it's much more refined.
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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #56 on: January 03, 2014, 05:50:25 PM »
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@Vox

You would be much happier with Aros or Aeros.  Hardware is more abundant and cheaper and the OS is free . . . :-)


yeah, but VOX still lives in the 80s when Intel was "evil" so he only wants PPC Aros :crazy:
 

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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #57 on: January 03, 2014, 06:47:37 PM »
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No he really should use Morphos it's much more refined.

Please don't encourage him. ;)
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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #58 on: January 03, 2014, 07:24:10 PM »
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Please don't encourage him. ;)


MOS folks have been saying MOS is superior all these years.  Vox deserves the very best!
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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #59 from previous page: January 03, 2014, 07:51:11 PM »
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MOS folks have been saying MOS is superior all these years.  Vox deserves the very best!


In did VOX, MorphOS is superior. It even has a eUEA jit because of superior MorphOS developers, when other OSs don't have it yet, or maybe ever.
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