X2000 or sue ... your comments

[yssing]

I thought users are our customers...

Besides, according to your signature you are using 20 years old hardware...

Ahh yes, you got me there. Except I never claimed that an A1200/060 was the way forward.
The amiga I use mostly is a SAM440.

[yssing]

I don't see why always MorphOS users want to bash other people hobby, that is most important single factor to me to not interest that OS.

That is actually the biggest reason, why I don't have any morphos machines, and the fact that I don't want old macs.

[Rob]

Bazinga!

Edit: Though to be fair to Vox, Steven Solie did falsely claimed OS4 will "get MUI 4, like MorphOS already has".

We just have to be "patient" apparently.

http://forum.hyperion-entertainment.biz/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=1748#p20204

Just got to say that you timed that one really badly.

[gertsy]

Just got to say that you timed that one really badly.

Perhaps for Christmas.?

[nicholas]

Just got to say that you timed that one really badly.

Why?

Is this "MUI4" for OS4 the "MUI 4, like MorphOS already has" that SSolie promised?

Please compile Ambient with no source changes whatsoever before answering that though.

[Niding]

Why?

Is this "MUI4" for OS4 the "MUI 4, like MorphOS already has" that SSolie promised?

Please compile Ambient with no source changes whatsoever before answering that though.

Is os4 mui 4 required to be identical or are ssolie being interpeted based on what we think vs what he planned in the first place? I guess any inconsistency in the OS implimentation makes him a liar. Lose-lose situation regardless.

A bit puzzled over this morphos vs os4 slapfest.
Each to their own. Kinda like when i had the c64. Still enjoyed civil discussions with amstrad and spectrum owners.

[utri007]

Why?

Is this "MUI4" for OS4 the "MUI 4, like MorphOS already has" that SSolie promised?

Please compile Ambient with no source changes whatsoever before answering that though.

Do you mean that this to be true "Steven Solie did falsely claimed OS4 will get MUI 4, like MorphOS already has" OS4 would require Ambient port first?

Hardest part is "falsely claimed", very strongly hints that Steve Solie is liar. But that is just typigal Amiga.org Hyperion bashing, wich is always allowed.

Another example, do you know from who Nicholas?

It seems to me they (and certain contractors of theirs) only take from the community.

wonder wht he means, maybe this

Hyperion doesn't even pay the OS4 developers so there is sod all chance they will give money to a MorphOS developer.

he wants that Hyperion pays devs like MorphOS team pays? Of course he knows what Hyperion pays to OS4 devs and not trying to bash Hyperion and OS4. Or Maybe he tries to hint that Hyperion has earned millions with OS4 sales?


I remember when X1000 was announced, here was a thread where some people stated that Trevor is just going to steal preorder moneys. Do you happen to remember who they were?

[amoskodare]

[Iggy]

Yes, AROS and MorphOS are based on the 3.1 API, but what is your point?
Even OS4 does not derive much from 3.5 or 3.9.

[itix]

Ahh yes, you got me there. Except I never claimed that an A1200/060 was the way forward.
The amiga I use mostly is a SAM440.

But SAM440 is discontinued too. Why don't you upgrade to x2000 or SAM460? ;-)

[itix]

Do you mean that this to be true "Steven Solie did falsely claimed OS4 will get MUI 4, like MorphOS already has" OS4 would require Ambient port first?

I don't think it (MUI4 in OS 4) is complete. It doesn't have to, though.

Hardest part is "falsely claimed", very strongly hints that Steve Solie is liar. But that is just typigal Amiga.org Hyperion bashing, wich is always allowed.

You can always go elsewhere. You didn't pay for this service.

I remember when X1000 was announced, here was a thread where some people stated that Trevor is just going to steal preorder moneys. Do you happen to remember who they were?

I remember it was you.

[itix]

Just got to say that you timed that one really badly.

Not really because MUI4 in OS4 can't be the same what MorphOS currently has. It is always left little behind because Hyperion must wait new MorphOS SDK is released in order to implement changes to their development tree. It is not important though.

[takemehomegrandma]

IMHO, that picture is somewhat misguiding, in more than one way.

[itix]

IMHO, that picture is somewhat misguiding, in more than one way.

AROS should be drawn to same level with OS4 and MorphOS. AROS is not discontinued and AROS is not only sharing source code to/from MorphOS but also to/from OS 4.

[takemehomegrandma]

Not really because MUI4 in OS4 can't be the same what MorphOS currently has. It is always left little behind because Hyperion must wait new MorphOS SDK is released in order to implement changes to their development tree. It is not important though.

Do you know if Stefan Stuntz was actually paid for this, or gave his blessing to it anyway? I knew they had permission to ship MUI 3 with OS4, but doing something like this is different. I'm asking because other OS4 developers are left unpaid and Hyperion has historically shown to have a special view on their rights regarding other peoples IP.

[itix]

Do you know if Stefan Stuntz was actually paid for this, or gave his blessing to it anyway? I knew they had permission to ship MUI 3 with OS4, but doing something like this is different. I'm asking because other OS4 developers are left unpaid and Hyperion has historically shown to have a special view on their rights regarding other peoples IP.

I don't speak for Stefan and don't know his dealings (I never ask him because it is none of my business). AFAIK he is not involved but he gets paid by Hyperion due to license agreement.