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Offline Oldsmobile_MikeTopic starter

Thylacine USB
« on: October 31, 2013, 05:04:02 AM »
Any Thylacine USB owners on here? I got one a little while back and am finally trying to get it working. I've got the card installed (had to swap it around to get it to "play nice" with my AD516), Posideon software installed, I can go to the "Controllers" tab, add the thylacine.device, toggle it to "Online", get the "hub with 1 port successfully configured" message, but as soon as I plug in any USB device (have tried generic mice & keyboards so far) my Amiga completely locks up. Ocassionally the mouse pointer will move across the screen, but it's as if I'm getting 100% CPU utilization. Unplugging the device has no effect, Amiga stays frozen. Any ideas? Was thinking maybe I should post a video to demonstrate this better, but figured I'd ask first. ;) Thanks!

Edit: card shows up fine and "Working" under Early Startup, Scout, WhichAmiga, etc., so I think it's working fine, just a config issue somewhere?
« Last Edit: October 31, 2013, 05:10:30 AM by Oldsmobile_Mike »
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Offline Matt_H

Re: Thylacine USB
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2013, 01:07:11 PM »
This is on your A2000? I don't think it'll be much help, but I had virtually identical problems with my A2000 and an Algor Pro. Ended up giving up on USB. I'm also running an AD516 (and Indivision, and 2MB Chip). I wonder if there's something about USB/Poseidon and some of our hardware that they don't like each other?
 

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Re: Thylacine USB
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2013, 02:04:12 PM »
I just picked up a Thylacine myself, but haven't had time to play with it quite yet.

However, if I remember correctly..., I don't think it is hot swappable.  Plugging a device in and pulling it out is probably causing the computer to break out in major sweat!

Probably need to plug in the device, boot up, and keep your fingers crossed.

I was hoping it would be bootable, but it doesn't do that either.

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Re: Thylacine USB
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2013, 02:55:37 PM »
ive  put my usb so it doesnt  start at start up  ..i use it if i need it ..seems to draw a lot power ..an causes crashes if in the startup ..after everythings loaded i start it ..generally no problems  ..though it doesnt like my 16gig flash drive ..
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Offline Oldsmobile_MikeTopic starter

Re: Thylacine USB
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2013, 05:21:41 PM »
Quote from: Matt_H;751550
This is on your A2000? I don't think it'll be much help, but I had virtually identical problems with my A2000 and an Algor Pro. Ended up giving up on USB. I'm also running an AD516 (and Indivision, and 2MB Chip). I wonder if there's something about USB/Poseidon and some of our hardware that they don't like each other?

Hummm, we have almost identical hardware.  Think I'll try it with the AD516 removed and see if that makes a difference.  Fingers crossed!
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Offline Oldsmobile_MikeTopic starter

Re: Thylacine USB
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2013, 05:24:26 PM »
Quote from: curtis;751551
Probably need to plug in the device, boot up, and keep your fingers crossed.

I've got the USB stack set to run on boot, but if I try to boot with a USB device plugged in it gets about as far as the Workbench title bar loading then freezes up.  If I boot with no device plugged in it boots fine (takes a little longer, and have a little less free memory, so I know the stack is running) but as soon as I plug in any device it's freeze-city.  :cry:
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Re: Thylacine USB
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2013, 05:33:18 PM »
My Deneb works in my A2000 (68040) in Z2 mode with the latest Posideon stack.  I use an original keyboard and mouse though and run the OS3.9 version of Classic Workbench.

Do you have a spare hard drive where you could try a basic 3.1 install with just the USB drivers?  No added frills.
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Offline Oldsmobile_MikeTopic starter

Re: Thylacine USB
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2013, 11:40:29 PM »
No difference with the AD516 removed.  Boots fine, but as soon as a USB device is plugged in it freezes up.  (same if you try booting with a device inserted)  :confused:  I'll try Darrin's suggestion next...
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Offline Oldsmobile_MikeTopic starter

Re: Thylacine USB
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2013, 06:37:08 PM »
I've contacted the builder of the card, since he's sold at least 50-60 of these over on Amibay I'm hoping he can assist. Haven't had a chance to try with a clean 3.1 install yet, but I'll just post my system specs here for reference or for anyone who comes across this thread in the future.
 
(Note - WhichAmiga reports Chip mem wonky because of TLSFmem patch I'm running)
 
My system specs are as follows:
- Amiga 2000, Rev. 6.3, full ECS. Motherboard works fine except for minor clock issues
- 3.1 Kickstart, 3.9 Workbench with Boing Bags 1-4
- GVP GeForce 040, 33MHz, 16MB Fast, 2MB Chip
- Indivision ECS
- Sunrize AD516 sound card (I've tried with and without the sound card installed)
- Mechware SCSI card reader booting off CF cards for hard drives
 
I'm wondering if it's an issue with A2000 only, or with A2000 Buster? It seems like most people use them in A3000/4000. I've tried card in a couple different slots, no difference. Everything works fine until I plug in a USB device (or try booting with one plugged in) then it locks up like it's getting 100% CPU utilization.
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Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
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Re: Thylacine USB
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2013, 07:11:04 PM »
That's what they get for naming the thing like something you'd take for an alergy attack. ;-)
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Re: Thylacine USB
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2013, 11:12:36 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thylacine

An Australian designer, so a very Aussie name!

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Re: Thylacine USB
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2013, 11:53:15 PM »
Quote from: Azryl;751642
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thylacine

An Australian designer, so a very Aussie name!

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It's also very extinct.  Bad karma to name anything after a extinct animal.  That's like actually putting a 13th floor in a high rise!  Just asking for trouble!  LOL!
 

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Re: Thylacine USB
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2013, 12:11:47 AM »
lol..extinct animal. like the amiga ;)

Are these boards still for sale? I dont use amibay. Is there another  way to get a board?
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Re: Thylacine USB
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2013, 12:12:31 AM »
Quote from: Azryl;751642
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thylacine

An Australian designer, so a very Aussie name!

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Well, stone the crows!

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Re: Thylacine USB
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2013, 01:48:34 AM »
There could still be some life left in Amiga and the Thylacine :p

Some have been spotted in the wild but all reports are un-confirmed :)

magnetic, only on Amibay at the moment, 6th batch selling out now

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