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Offline LaserBack

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Re: AVI question
« Reply #29 from previous page: October 27, 2013, 03:37:58 PM »
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Haha, yes Im fake, not real at all. My posts are merely figments of your imagination and/or doctored with photoshop.

Seriously though, either pull your head in and stop acting like a pork chop, or keep digging so I can enjoy the laugh.
I dont need the web to verify what my own computer tells me :)
For the record, I dont trust sysinfo anyway, but that wasn't the point.


you are a liar and fake everybody knows that a 040/40mhz is only 30 mips on sysinfo
 

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Re: AVI question
« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2013, 03:53:05 PM »
and this is for the 060 fools ....real screenshots of 060/50mhz
you can see is only 38mips, some ppl here still think that a 060 performs like a core i7

http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?t=30528
 

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Re: AVI question
« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2013, 03:55:50 PM »
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yes the 040 and the 060 are same speed per mhz , ie idem core excepting the 060 have a faster FPU

No, they're not the same speed per mhz, and I'm pretty sure of that. You're basing this on Sysinfo, and that's just plain wrong.

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and yes SYSINFO is the best benchmark,that's because was always used for comparison

No, it's not the best benchmark. Also, how much something is used has no effect on it's quality. Not to mention that benchmarks in general are tricky.

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now if ppl like you who have a 060 like to use innacurate benchmarkslike sysspeed because they feel they have a faster CPU is a different history

I don't have a 60, nor do I have a 40 (I have a 30). What you're saying is just highly unlikely. I already explained how you can get more performance from 60s by using proper optimizing techniques. Techniques that only work on 60s. One size fits all benchmarks like Sysinfo don't take these features in account.

Anyway, if you want to believe Sysinfo, go right ahead, just don't expect everyone to agree with you.
 

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Re: AVI question
« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2013, 05:11:43 PM »
Hah, I could get 060/50 to make nearly 60 mips on Sysinfo - just running on suitable RTG screen with a higher refresh...
 

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Re: AVI question
« Reply #33 on: October 27, 2013, 06:20:28 PM »
@laserback

Ah, I see you opted to keep digging a hole and making people laugh. Very good, this site needed more comic relief.

As for your claims that an '060 is much the same as an '040 at the same clockrate, care to amuse us with an explanation as to why real software performs so much faster on even 50mhz '060 than a 40mhz '040?

Doom, quake, pc-task, photogenics, even dnet clients. Its not just fpu stuff either. Imagine3d no fpu version shows big speed-ups.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2013, 06:25:36 PM by fishy_fiz »
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Re: AVI question
« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2013, 06:44:49 PM »
It's so easy - 060 has 2 integer units and needs code that uses both to get the full speed out of it. Sysinfo runs just on one unit.
 

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Re: AVI question
« Reply #35 on: October 27, 2013, 07:05:35 PM »
@zipper

Careful, lest you want to be deemed fake. :)
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Re: AVI question
« Reply #36 on: October 27, 2013, 07:24:57 PM »
But I am - a fake zipper.
 

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Re: AVI question
« Reply #37 on: October 27, 2013, 07:38:57 PM »
Velcro then?  :)
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Re: AVI question
« Reply #38 on: October 27, 2013, 08:50:14 PM »
I prefer contact cement. Or Zap...well, zapper?
 

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Re: AVI question
« Reply #39 on: October 28, 2013, 01:06:03 AM »
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It's so easy - 060 has 2 integer units and needs code that uses both to get the full speed out of it. Sysinfo runs just on one unit.


uh yeah
I forgot the 060 is a dual core
 

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Re: AVI question
« Reply #40 on: October 28, 2013, 01:24:30 AM »
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uh yeah
I forgot the 060 is a dual core
Having two integer units or two cores doesn't mean the same thing. A 60 can execute multiple instructions at the same time if they're in the right order. This has absolutely nothing to do with running multiple threads at the same time.
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Re: AVI question
« Reply #41 on: October 28, 2013, 12:50:37 PM »
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I thought I'd give Virtualdub another try with CinePak and got a reasonable result, I'll have to see if I can tweak it further.   The audio is very low, not sure why.

im assuming  u got a 060  playing that avi  ..i dont get nearly as good results  
smooth enuff  but looks more like 16 colours  on my  030 machine half screen  mov files  look better using action  i use cyberavi to play avis ..mpegs dont seem to like me  so far not many play for me or are way jerky.. ..lets say  i have a mpeg  or a vcd  of a movie  an want to play it as a avi on my a1200 ..how  do i do it  ..never used virtual dub etc..
A500 3.1/8meg/2gigscsi ...wants a 040
CD32/SX1/FMV/FLASHDRIVE/  wants sx32pro
A1200  os3.5 030/50/fpu/mmu/2flashdrives/cd/   indivision coming ..............wants a ppc/060  ACCEL :laughing:
 

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Re: AVI question
« Reply #42 on: October 28, 2013, 01:57:21 PM »
Quote from: LaserBack;751240
and this is for the 060 fools ....real screenshots of 060/50mhz
you can see is only 38mips, some ppl here still think that a 060 performs like a core i7

http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?t=30528


hahahahahaha, then do benchmark with dos version of sis info on that core i7 and compare with 386 on same soft.  ;)
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Re: AVI question
« Reply #43 on: October 28, 2013, 08:22:40 PM »
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Very nice.
If we weren't both fake I'd be impressed :P

Seriously though, what clockrate is that? Eighty mhz?

Yes, 80MHz. Thanks for your nice comment.
The 040@40MHz is a nice CPU, but it's slow next to an 060.
Everything I post here is fake though; pictures, words... I'm just a wreckless fool! :laugh1:
 

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Re: AVI question
« Reply #44 on: October 28, 2013, 10:51:05 PM »
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Quote from: NovaCoder;751222
I thought I'd give Virtualdub another try with CinePak and got a reasonable result, I'll have to see if I can tweak it further.   The audio is very low, not sure why.

im assuming  u got a 060  playing that avi  ..i dont get nearly as good results  
smooth enuff  but looks more like 16 colours  on my  030 machine half screen  mov files  look better using action  i use cyberavi to play avis ..mpegs dont seem to like me  so far not many play for me or are way jerky.. ..lets say  i have a mpeg  or a vcd  of a movie  an want to play it as a avi on my a1200 ..how  do i do it  ..never used virtual dub etc..

Yep 060, same speed as Paul's :)

MooVid is the best thing for playing AVI's on AGA, you can use the HAM8 mode called 'Storm Dither' for the best looking results (16bit on AGA!).   The AVI player bundled with 3.9 called Action is actually MooVid in disguise.

Virtualdub seems to be the best tool to use for creating the AVI's (use CinePak codec), I've still got to fine tune it a bit to improve the playback.....watch this space.

Saying all that though, you're not going to get very good results with an 030, it's just not powerful enough I'm afraid.
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