Regarding the naming of new A-eon systems

[takemehomegrandma]

@Derf, etc...

You know, it's a good thing that not everyone has your mindset (very few actually), and that everyone is actually able to raise and discuss any issue at free will. It turns out that quite a few people agrees that the "A" naming scheme is a really bad idea, like I *knew* people would, and many have sent e-mails to A-eon about this. This obviously opened their eyes to such a degree, that now when the actual voting starts, they have gone from four voting options to *twelve*, of which only the first four is "A" options (and a few rather strange "AX" options for some reason). Other than those, there are "X" (the most logical one), "P" (the second most logical one, at least if followed by CPU model number), and "Q". Don't really understand that last one, but maybe that's just me.

Anyway, here are the options:

http://a-eon.com/18-10-2013-6.pdf

From discussions in this thread and elsewhere, I suppose the voting will result in them keeping the "X" naming scheme (which is a good idea IMHO), alternatively "P".

If not going with the "X" like in Option 12 for example, then the best option IMHO would be an "Option 13", meaning Option 12 but "P" instead of "X". That would simply be the CPU model names:

• P3041 (I have no idea about the logic behind the "3500" that is in several of the options instead of 3041)
• P5020
• P5040

[Rob]

@Derf, etc...

You know, it's a good thing that not everyone has your mindset (very few actually), and that everyone is actually able to raise and discuss any issue at free will. It turns out that quite a few people agrees that the "A" naming scheme is a really bad idea, like I *knew* people would, and many have sent e-mails to A-eon about this. This obviously opened their eyes to such a degree, that now when the actual voting starts, they have gone from four voting options to *twelve*, of which only the first four is "A" options (and a few rather strange "AX" options for some reason). Other than those, there are "X" (the most logical one), "P" (the second most logical one, at least if followed by CPU model number), and "Q". Don't really understand that last one, but maybe that's just me.

Anyway, here are the options:

http://a-eon.com/18-10-2013-6.pdf

From discussions in this thread and elsewhere, I suppose the voting will result in them keeping the "X" naming scheme (which is a good idea IMHO), alternatively "P".

If not going with the "X" like in Option 12 for example, then the best option IMHO would be an "Option 13", meaning Option 12 but "P" instead of "X". That would simply be the CPU model names:

• P3041 (I have no idea about the logic behind the "3500" that is in several of the options instead of 3041)
• P5020
• P5040

Almost immediately after the slide was shown it was already being discussed that the existing model numbers shouldn't be re-used for various reason.

I think the X scheme makes most sense since that's where A-EON started but A5000 be less offensive to you since it was never used on models produced by Commodore, Escom or Quickpac?

Q would be because the processors are all from the QorIQ series.

[takemehomegrandma]

I think the X scheme makes most sense since that's where A-EON started

+1

but A5000 be less offensive to you since it was never used on models produced by Commodore, Escom or Quickpac?

No, the A5000 was something many dreamed of back in the days of the Commodore bankruptcy; meaning the logical big-box follow up to the A4000. And whatever this would have been ("AAA"/whatever), *this* is *not* it!

In my view it's really simple: Everything starting with an "A" followed by numbers would be unethical, since by the de-facto naming convention used by everyone, this is "reserved" for Classic Amigas, and it would intrude on Amiga's history and greatness, and the only reason to why anyone would want to do this, would be to *parasite* on it!

I don't really think Trevor wants to do this. I think it will mean a lot of badwill doing so. From the response they have been given, I'm convinced they have now realized they should stay away from "A" altogether...

[Iggy]

Frank recently posted on MZ that he thinks it is a waste of time to add anymore machines to the list of supported hardware as there are now plenty of models supported with something available for everyone at differing levels of price, performance and features.

I tend to agree, concentrating on improving MorphOS features should be the main focus of manpower now before any architecture shift is even planned.

It's aleady the best AmigaOS by far, but think how much better it will be when the team are not bogged down with porting it to new hardware.

I wouldn't count additional machines out yet.
But since the adoption of the Mac Mini, each additional port has only created additional work with a limited number of new users.

I don't think anyone will be disappointed by the direction Pega-1 and the rest of the MorphOS developers move toward.

This has all been very evolutionary for us and I expect that to continue.

As to a port to A-eon hardware, why not?
More potential there than in the Samantha.

And the ridiculous sentiments of outrage over the use of an "A" prefix?
Are you guys serious?
Hey, I'd like to see them move from AmigaOne to Amiga.

Time to stop playing around guys, its a new millennium.
I'm glad there's someone there to develop new hardware.

[Iggy]

Oh, btw, I think it would be interesting to point out that we have been discussing Freescale's e5500 cored products on MorphZone since their announcement.

While some of you continue to demand a flat earth model, things have moved on.

[Louis Dias]

A3000 vs. A1-A3000, what's the confusion?

[Iggy]

A3000 vs. A1-A3000, what's the confusion?

Seriously.
In a world where most people ask "what is an Amiga?", is this REALLY a point of contention?

[takemehomegrandma]

A3000 vs. A1-A3000, what's the confusion?

In reality, you only have to look around to see that for yourself that very few people today writes out the full "Amigaone X1000", and it must be very few times I have seen people write "A1-X1000" (none I can recall right now actually). People simply say "X1000".

There is your answer!

[takemehomegrandma]

And the ridiculous sentiments of outrage over the use of an "A" prefix?
Are you guys serious?

I'd say that this is *not* a small issue for most Amigans, and I don't know what you try to accomplish by belittle and ridicule it?

Hey, I'd like to see them move from AmigaOne to Amiga.

Luckily they will never be able to.

[danwood]

The only Amigas with an A prefix were the A1200 and the A600.  All the other classics had no such prefix in front of their number.

You sure about that?  

http://www.vex.net/~falco/petscii/A500-3.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Amiga_500_plus.JPG

[bitman]

A3000 is not Amiga:

https://www.google.dk/#q=a3000&safe=active

[OlafS3]

"Time to stop playing around guys, its a new millennium.
I'm glad there's someone there to develop new hardware."

I would say "wasting his money"

Regarding naming, by using "A" he would pretend that the new computers with AmigaOS are successors of the classic line (what they claim anyway). It would only confuse new users who (for whatever reasons) search for the old models. But propably these people would soon also learn about MorphOS or AROS so instead trying to confuse potential buyers it would be better to create more competitive OS/hardware that justifies the price difference. I am clearly for that they stay with "X". And to say everything is a good idea that angers TMHG is not very convincing. Perhaps he is not the only one that would be angered.

[bitman]

Isn't "writing an Amiga compatible OS from scratch" also a waste of time/money?

Isn't collecting Amiga's also a waste of money?

I would say "wasting his money"

[Kesa]

Let them write A3000. I think you're all getting confused. The only Amigas with an A prefix were the A1200 and the A600.  All the other classics had no such prefix in front of their number.
Let them name them what they want.

[OlafS3]

Isn't "writing an Amiga compatible OS from scratch" also a waste of time/money?

Isn't collecting Amiga's also a waste of money?

Yes but spending 1.2 Million Dollar for new PPC based custom hardware in 2013/2014 IS indeed wasting money. It is also called hobby like collecting and repairing oldtimers, collecting stamps or whatever. But he should at least not try to confuse his new toys with the classic line.

And he could have spend it in porting AmigaOS to better and cheaper hardware. "Custom hardware" that offers no real benefits compared to standard hardware makes no real sense.

[spirantho]

In actual fact, the Amiga has less claim to the 'A' prefix than the Acorn Archimedes, which is actually marketed with the A.

Look at an A3000 (Archimedes) and you'll see it says "A3000". Look at an Amiga 3000 and it says "Amiga 3000".

Admittedly, I wish my A3000 was an Amiga 3000 However, be assured that no one computer has the right to the 'A' prefix, and if one does, it's the Acorn Archimedes.

That said, I still think the 'X' prefix is better, and if we do use the 'A', we should avoid numbers already used by the Amiga.