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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #104 from previous page: October 11, 2013, 10:12:44 AM »
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Does the quad server run OS4.1?  Classic Amiga software?  Read and write Amiga disks?  Emulate multiple other computers?  Or look cool as hell with a boing ball etched front panel?

I could buy three of them for the cost of my X1000 and they wouldn't do anything like the above.  I think I'll just use my ZyXel $89 diskless server for my NAS needs. :-)


I believe it can do all of that, except OS 4.1. Early revisions of 4.0 can be run on UAE.
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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #105 on: October 12, 2013, 01:48:53 PM »
£2,199.95??? for this machine .Has everyone gone crazy? I could build it for half or quarter of the price if i sourced the parts myself.If only my hobbie was cheaper lol:roflmao:
 

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #106 on: October 12, 2013, 02:15:25 PM »
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I believe it can do all of that, except OS 4.1. Early revisions of 4.0 can be run on UAE.


Early revisions of 4.0 ran on uae?. are those 68k based?
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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #107 on: October 12, 2013, 03:17:02 PM »
@amiga_nut
What kind of car you got? 6k aint that much for a car. :-p

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Wow! Lots of replies here!

I read through the thread earlier and there was a few comments about "it's not really worth it" and I would like to address that.

When you go off the track of common garden variety products then the price reflects low availability and bespoke/uniqueness of the vehicle. I recently paid £6000 for a car just 2 years younger than my original Amiga 1000. I decided to call that car Christine because nobody in my family could understand why I would buy a 1988 tail happy RWD car with a ridiculously large engine (about the size of a Ford Escort) and excessive over engineered etc. However to me it is the only car that does what it does and I'd rather be soaked in petrol and set fire to than drive some crap 'modern' euro box with no character and just well as pleasant as a motorway service station dinner.

It's the same with the x1000. I felt the need to have a machine to run OS4. It doesn't have to play 1080p video (I can live with a PC + Zoomplayer + Vistacodecpack). In fact all it has to do is pretty much just switch on and run OS4 programs. If I can one day use it to run my basic web pages I design (nothing more modern than HTML of 2001) and NOT GET VIRUSED TO DEATH ON A DAILY BASIS then it serves its purpose.

So you see, for me value is a relative thing and that's all I can say. I didn't get the original AmigaONE last decade and regret it, as the x1000s are still around new today then it means I can actually experience buying a new computer that isn't Windows or Mac. I didn't want cup holders in my car or an engine that turns off at the traffic lights or tries to steer and power the same axle on the car and I had to pay through the nose for a very very old car....but then it is unique and well it will not be as annoying as a 'modern car'. Same difference with the x1000 vs latest PC %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!box. Speaking of PCs....isn't anyone else getting pissed off that the i7 is NOT going down in price even after all these years...AMD COME BACK, WE NEED YOU TO JAM A STICK UP INTEL'S ASS TO KEEP PRICES LOW!

So that will be an extra comfy straight jacket and one x1000 for Xmas please Santa :)

PS The MOS comments, I don't have a problem with MOS at all but a MOS Mac and an x1000 are completely different machines to me and neither affects the purchase of the other, if need be I would have both. If MOS for Mac G5 is finished I will purchase a licence for that too and a G5 Mac to run it on but not before G5 distro is released.
 

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #108 on: October 12, 2013, 03:17:08 PM »
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Early revisions of 4.0 ran on uae?. are those 68k based?

They were 68k based. There was a beta tester legion (about 150) who had OS 3.9 as base install and downloaded new 68k based 4.0 components from FTP when they were made available.

(I used to know OS4 beta tester who was eagerly testing 4.0 on his A1200 or A4000 and he didnt have PPC.)
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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #109 on: October 12, 2013, 03:19:01 PM »
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They were 68k based. There was a beta tester legion (about 150) who had OS 3.9 as base install and downloaded new 68k based 4.0 components from FTP when they were made available.

I do not suppose they are available now?
 

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #110 on: October 12, 2013, 04:03:56 PM »
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I do not suppose they are available now?


I believe 68k builds were dropped when first A1 boots were successful in 2003 or so. Certainly not available for long time.
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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #111 on: October 12, 2013, 05:51:40 PM »
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I do not suppose they are available now?

and its better like that.
 

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #112 on: October 12, 2013, 06:38:52 PM »
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and its better like that.

Why?
 

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #113 on: October 12, 2013, 08:54:51 PM »
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They were 68k based. There was a beta tester legion (about 150) who had OS 3.9 as base install and downloaded new 68k based 4.0 components from FTP when they were made available.

(I used to know OS4 beta tester who was eagerly testing 4.0 on his A1200 or A4000 and he didnt have PPC.)

Yes, as well as some small components could be leeched later. But that is A-EONs away from what OS 4.x is today :-)

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #114 on: October 12, 2013, 11:36:42 PM »
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Why?

because a user does not necesarily needs to mess with buggy developer builds. amigas have a complete operating systems, which even gets improved as we speek. if you want to mess with developer builds i recommend aros 68k nightlies to you. more fun and it is not an abandoned work.
 

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #115 on: October 13, 2013, 02:18:59 AM »
If you want something really cheap to play around with, I've got a Chinese supplier that has a lot of neat pieces.
20 MHz Z-80s, static ram, etc
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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #116 on: October 15, 2013, 12:11:40 PM »
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@amiga_nut
What kind of car you got? 6k aint that much for a car. :-p


Ahh, edited too much in my post lol

It was a BMW 325i Sport (1988-89 classic model) and they used to cost about 3000-3500 a year ago for one in mint condition, and 3 years ago I picked one up for 1500 in reasonable condition. 10 years from now you probably won't be able to buy one unless you have something just as rare/cool to trade.
 

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #117 on: October 15, 2013, 12:56:46 PM »
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@amiga_nut
What kind of car you got? 6k aint that much for a car. :-p


We were looking to replace our aging Toyota Tarago, just a regular mini-van, the RRP on a 2014 Tarago was AU$49K and the drive away price was AU$53K.  So US$6K is pretty cheap....
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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #118 on: October 16, 2013, 01:31:18 PM »
That's 6000 UK pounds sterling for a quarter century car that you could have picked up for 3000 last summer/autumn.

It's sort of like what happened to Amiga 3000/4000 systems over the last 18 months. I see 030 CPU cards now for the price 4000/030 machines were going for not that long ago.

Moral of the story, if you want something that is in limited supply and will only be owned by fanatics best to grab one when you can (this applies for anything IMO....even rubbish Atari STs haha)
 

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #119 on: October 16, 2013, 05:18:05 PM »
Bmw e30 is nice. I had a 86 320i almost 12 years ago. Nice car but a bit slow with 130hp.
Traded it for an e30m3.
Got a picture of the beauty? :)

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Ahh, edited too much in my post lol

It was a BMW 325i Sport (1988-89 classic model) and they used to cost about 3000-3500 a year ago for one in mint condition, and 3 years ago I picked one up for 1500 in reasonable condition. 10 years from now you probably won't be able to buy one unless you have something just as rare/cool to trade.