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Re: Converting TV signal from Amiga to HDMI?
« Reply #74 on: December 28, 2014, 03:29:24 PM »
Agreed. I am curious as to what your SCART to HDMI converter looks like then. Perhaps you found a better one than mine.

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That is a strange artifact, TBH i've never seen it on on either the RGB-HDMI or the RGB-YUV converter no matter whether im using 50hz or 60hz.

There's certainly no harm in trying the RGB-YUV converter if you can find a seller that offers a money back warranty if you doesnt work for you.
 

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Re: Converting TV signal from Amiga to HDMI?
« Reply #75 on: December 28, 2014, 03:46:01 PM »
Only mono output from the A500's native phone jack.  :(

Composite on the A600/A1200? Now that may have been the simplest solution in my case. If The A500 only had color composite out. This would also have the added benefit of not having an image that is "too sharp".

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I get full colour output on both pal and ntsc though the ntsc picture is better the PAL is a little "fuzzy" but still looks good
 

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Re: Converting TV signal from Amiga to HDMI?
« Reply #76 on: December 28, 2014, 06:18:05 PM »
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4 pages of discussion when the solution was nicely summarised by paul1981 in post #5.  

The indivision not only provides the best quality output but also provides 1024x768 and 1920x1280 resolutions.

unless I'm mistaken it does not do 1920x1280 but can do 1280x720p. Or maybe they created a new video mode recently and I missed it. That would be nice.

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=748711&postcount=5

yes, I also agree...

I tried all sorts of stuff prior to this, but nothing that worked consistently well with all Amiga video modes. The money spent on that junk is gone. There is no reason to go down that route if you can get an Indivision AGA MK2. The situation was different when the Indivision AGA (original) was selling used for $300+ USD and people were desperate.

I mean (technically) if you  want the cheapest/easiest solution for HDMI on Amiga, the best solution is to skip the flaky old hardware all together and run UAE :)
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Re: Converting TV signal from Amiga to HDMI?
« Reply #77 on: December 28, 2014, 09:54:22 PM »
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Agreed. I am curious as to what your SCART to HDMI converter looks like then. Perhaps you found a better one than mine.

Mine is identical to DanBeever's unit he posted pics of HERE.
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Re: Converting TV signal from Amiga to HDMI?
« Reply #78 on: December 28, 2014, 09:57:10 PM »
Quote from: TCMSLP;780654
4 pages of discussion when the solution was nicely summarised by paul1981 in post #5.  

The indivision not only provides the best quality output but also provides 1024x768 and 1920x1280 resolutions.

That's all well and good if you only have one Amiga and it's an a1200!

Personally i have 4 Amiga's and eventually managed to buy a Sony Trinitron Pro Video Monitor for every day use (scored it for $36 aud from a Uni Film & TV school) and I use the RGB-YUV converter with my TV's on the odd occasion I have time to use them.

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Re: Converting TV signal from Amiga to HDMI?
« Reply #79 on: December 28, 2014, 10:17:09 PM »
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That's all well and good if you only have one Amiga and it's an a1200!

They make Indivisions for all models of Amiga.  I use them in my A500 and A2000 and would never go back, or consider any of these hacked up, "save a penny", jury-rigged solutions in these threads.  But, have fun with that!  ;)
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Re: Converting TV signal from Amiga to HDMI?
« Reply #80 on: December 28, 2014, 10:22:01 PM »
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They make Indivisions for all models of Amiga.  I use them in my A500 and A2000 and would never go back, or consider any of these hacked up, "save a penny", jury-rigged solutions in these threads.  But, have fun with that!  ;)

The Indy's are about $200 aud each (~ double the price of an a500), that's bloody expensive - if Jens had any sense he'd make an affordable external version ... I know I'd buy it

PS. my Sony PVM is not a "jury-rigged solution", it supports 15kHz RGBS natively ... it also supports Chroma/Luma and works great with my C64. :)
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Re: Converting TV signal from Amiga to HDMI?
« Reply #81 on: December 28, 2014, 10:34:23 PM »
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The Indy's are about $200 aud each (~ double the price of an a500), that's bloody expensive - if Jens had any sense he'd make an affordable external version ... I know I'd buy it

Exchange rates are a funny thing.  Just checked my receipt, I paid $106 USD for mine.  Which is far less than the price of any Amiga around here.  *sigh*  :(
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Re: Converting TV signal from Amiga to HDMI?
« Reply #82 on: December 28, 2014, 10:56:17 PM »
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They make Indivisions for all models of Amiga.

What about the Sega Mega Drive? and the Sega Genesis? And the Super Nintendo? and every other 15Khz game console or computer?
 

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Re: Converting TV signal from Amiga to HDMI?
« Reply #83 on: December 28, 2014, 11:11:59 PM »
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What about the Sega Mega Drive? and the Sega Genesis? And the Super Nintendo? and every other 15Khz game console or computer?

Last I checked this was an Amiga forum. And the subject of the thread was "Converting from Amiga".  Smart ass. ;)
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Re: Converting TV signal from Amiga to HDMI?
« Reply #84 on: December 28, 2014, 11:33:01 PM »
And that is identical to my own. I am curious if there is something else involved. I will do some tests with just booting up from floppies to rule out anything funny going on with my Workbench settings.


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Mine is identical to DanBeever's unit he posted pics of HERE.
 

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Re: Converting TV signal from Amiga to HDMI?
« Reply #85 on: December 28, 2014, 11:46:03 PM »
It is spelled, "DanBeaver," as the last name is British, derived from "Beaverbrook."
 

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Re: Converting TV signal from Amiga to HDMI?
« Reply #86 on: December 28, 2014, 11:50:46 PM »
Since I have the A500, that would be the Indivision ECS. My goal now is to stay in the 15KHz domain and steer clear of scan doublers/flicker fixers/hacking my case. I also read about some bugginess with this adapter and the firmware hasn't been updated in a while. Then, there's the availability of the hardware itself. AmigaKit's stock shows "T.B.A".

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They make Indivisions for all models of Amiga.  I use them in my A500 and A2000 and would never go back, or consider any of these hacked up, "save a penny", jury-rigged solutions in these threads.  But, have fun with that!  ;)
 

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Re: Converting TV signal from Amiga to HDMI?
« Reply #87 on: December 29, 2014, 12:36:37 AM »
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It is spelled, "DanBeaver," as the last name is British, derived from "Beaverbrook."


Lol sorry, my bad. :)
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Re: Converting TV signal from Amiga to HDMI?
« Reply #88 on: December 29, 2014, 05:36:08 AM »
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Last I checked this was an Amiga forum. And the subject of the thread was "Converting from Amiga".  Smart ass. ;)


I'd be surprised if most of us didnt have more than just our Amiga's that needed 15kHz video support.
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Re: Converting TV signal from Amiga to HDMI?
« Reply #89 from previous page: December 29, 2014, 10:05:22 AM »
I have the A500+ using an Indi ECS, no issues. The picture is a lot sharper than when I had a SCART setup.

For quality from bad to worse SCART -> Svideo adapter from Amigamaniac -> Indi ECS. If I had to choose the cheapest and best option it was the Svideo adapter + Svideo to HDMI adapter.

Best solution not including price, Indi ECS.

Same situation for the A1200 which I can also use the Svideo adapter. Love the 1080p WB screen with the Indi Mkii.

As for other consoles, my DC has a VGA adapter box. The Master system has been modded with onboard component and other interesting mods etc etc....
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